Rum/Romioi (Greco-Turkish) language of the Anatolian christians in 1909

[morski]

The Armenians and Assyrians of the empire were not "Rum".

You had your own Churches.

[shshmuk]

You had your own Churches.

Yes. I just a little bit corrected the statement that "ALL Christians in the Empire were Rum". There WERE few groups of Armenians who belonged to the Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch or Constantinople, so they were Rum too, but they were minority among the Armenians.

[morski]

Yes. I just a little bit corrected the statement that "ALL Christians in the Empire were Rum". There WERE few groups of Armenians who belonged to the Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch or Constantinople, so they were Rum too, but they were minority among the Armenians.

I stand corrected.

[kabeiros]

So, this was the language of the grandparents about 1/3rd of current population in Greece. Ofc we know that about ~500.000 of them didn't even know Romioi but only Turkish in 1923.

Bullshit coming out of Turkish mouth as usal... The total population of Anatolian Greeks who were exchanged with Helladic Turks was 1,3 milion people and they were settled among 4,6 milion Helladic Greeks. This means that Anatolian Greeks
were 28% percent of the population. Among this Anatolian Greeks those of Cappadocian and South Anatolian ancestry have been less than 400.000 (closer to 200.000 really) which translates into a total of 7% of the total Greek population at most...but this figure magically became 30% in your post.
Your claim that they are a mix of Turks and natives doesn't make sense either...they spoke Turkish alright but that doesn't make them Turks. Do you think that Sephardim are Spaniards and Ashkenazim are Germans??? lol

[exceeder]

I can't speak for other groups, but I do know that the orthodox christians of present day lebanon were known as/called Rum, particularly during the days of ottoman overlordship.

[kabeiros]

We were calling the Greeks in Greece as "Yunan" meaning "Ionians" but the ones in Turkey still called as Rum even today because their language was different from the Greeks of Greece as it`s explained in this book.

Once again you prove how ignorant the Turks have been throughout history...You called the Greeks of Greece Yunan which means Ionians and the ones of Anatolia Rum, although Ionians actually lived in west Anatolia (Smyrne/Izmir, Phokaia/Foca etc.) and not in mainland Greece. Thank you!!!

[Linet]

No darlings...Rums were only the Greeks ...not all the Christians of the empire...except if we talk about chhristian GREEKS ...:

[Linet]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_Greeks

Now please stop replying when you only have or might have heard something but you know nothing about it...

By Late Antiquity, the Greeks referred to themselves as Rhomaioi (Greek: Ῥωμαῖοι) or Romioi (Greek: Ρωμιοί), i.e. "Romans", since after AD 212 virtually all Greeks were Roman citizens. After the establishment of Christianity by Theodosius I, "Hellene" was applied to the followers of the polytheistic ("pagan") religion. A unique form is used in Georgian, where the Greeks are called berdzeni (Georgian: ბერძენი), probably deriving from the Georgian word for "wise".

[Linet]

And speciiiiiificly about the Rum...which is the Turkish word for it....for those who have it hard to understand simple things

So this is how Turks meant it...

Rûm, also Roum or Rhum (in Arabic الرُّومُ ar-Rūm, Persian/Turkish Rum; all from Middle Persian Hrom[citation needed]) is a vague term used at different times in the Muslim world to refer to the Balkans and Anatolia generally, to the Byzantine Empire in particular, to the Seljuk Sultanate of Rûm in Asia Minor, to non-Muslims inhabiting Ottoman or Turkish territory, and to Greeks living outside of Greece. The name is loaned from the Byzantine-Greek self-designation Ρωμιοί ("Romans").

[Pecheneg]

No darlings...Rums were only the Greeks ...not all the Christians of the empire...except if we talk about chhristian GREEKS ...:

So, you know Turkish better than us? not a suprise, since your greatgrandfather was Turkish-speaker.
"Rum= Roman" in Turkish, not Greek. up