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    Default Scientists claim climate in Europe is Cooling

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...trial-age.html

    Rings in fossilised pine trees have proven that the world was much warmer than previously thought - and the earth has been slowly COOLING for 2,000 years.
    Measurements stretching back to 138BC prove that the Earth is slowly cooling due to changes in the distance between the Earth and the sun.
    The finding may force scientists to rethink current theories of the impact of global warming.
    It is the first time that researchers have been able to accurately measure trends in global temperature over the last two millennia.
    Over that time, the world has been getting cooler - and previous estimates, used as the basis for current climate science, are wrong.
    Their findings demonstrate that this trend involves a cooling of -0.3°C per millennium due to gradual changes to the position of the sun and an increase in the distance between the Earth and the sun.
    ‘This figure we calculated may not seem particularly significant,’ says Esper, ‘however, it is also not negligible when compared to global warming, which up to now has been less than 1°C.
    'Our results suggest that the large-scale climate reconstruction shown by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) likely underestimate this long-term cooling trend over the past few millennia.’
    The finding was based on semi-fossilised tree rings found in Finnish lapland.
    Professor Dr. Jan Esper's group at the Institute of Geography at JGU used tree-ring density measurements from sub-fossil pine trees originating from Finnish Lapland to produce a reconstruction reaching back to 138 BC.
    In so doing, the researchers have been able for the first time to precisely demonstrate that the long-term trend over the past two millennia has been towards climatic cooling.
    ‘We found that previous estimates of historical temperatures during the Roman era and the Middle Ages were too low,’ says Esper. ‘Such findings are also significant with regard to climate policy, as they will influence the way today's climate changes are seen in context of historical warm periods.’
    The annual growth rings in trees are the most important witnesses over the past 1,000 to 2,000 years as they indicate how warm and cool past climate conditions were.

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    Cooling means warming and warming means warming.

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    We all know that the artificial construct known as "cap and trade" is nothing more than a fraud to get companies to pay more taxes. It will have very little, to no, impact on CO2 levels, much less global warming.

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    The world climate peaked after the Last Glacial Maximum during the Atlantic period. From there it has got steadily cooler.
    Technically speaking we are in an Ice Age because it is defined as when there is ice at the poles. This is just a warm period which is slowly moving back into what most people term an Ice Age, although some argue that the CO2 in the atmosphere is deferring it.

    It's ironic really, in the past decades it was global cooling that people were worried about, then suddenly they changed their mind and it became warming instead. Of the two it is probably cooling which will be the worse case scenario for Europe and North America.
    If the climate did cool significantly then geo-engineering would perhaps be in order - consciously boosting CO2 levels in the atmosphere to create a increased greenhouse effect (increased because we've always had it) which in turn would warm our climates. This sort of tampering with the earth would be risk but in the long run would benefit us because 1/3 of the planet wouldn't be under a slab of ice.

    If humans do have the power to influence climate then keeping the climate relatively stable at its current level should be the goal. As much as I'd like an orange tree outside and 20c water at the Irish Sea, it would just be too risky to drastically alter the climate to suit us. We know our current climates, if we altered it too much then we'd have no idea what effect it would have.

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    I also remember the global cooling people from the late '70s! John Gribbin wrote one of the popular-science books on the subject (probably the only bad book Gribbin wrote--the rest, mostly popularized physics texts, were quite good). I think I still have it, down in the basement.
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