Slavic nose

[Artek]

I wrote I2a2 because you wrote it too. I meant specifically I2a2a ( now called I2a1b ).

I don't know, they appear to be Old-European offshoots. Is this clade found mostly in Balkans?

EDIT: This certain clade probably originated in Balkans(or just found the best refuge there)Very unstable presence suggests that they were most likely killed-off to some extent in the European Plains.

[Insuperable]

I don't know, they appear to be Old-European offshoots is this clade found mostly in Balkans?

Former I2a2a in the Y2010 tree. I2a1b1 (L69.2(=T)/S163.2) is typical of the South Slavic populations of south-eastern Europe, being highest in Bosnia-Herzegovina (>50%).[14] Haplogroup I2a1b1 is also commonly found in north-eastern Italians.[15] There is also a high concentration of I2a2a in north-east Romania, Moldova and western Ukraine. In 2010 has Ken Nordtvedt argued that I2a1b1 is too young not to have been a result of a sudden expansion.[16] According to him I2a1b1 arose not earlier than 2500 years ago in Eastern Europe. He has presumed this to be a consequence from the Slavic invasion of the Balkans, from the area north-east of the Carpathians since 500 CE.[17] In 2011 Nordtvedt has confirmed I2a1b1 is not older than 2,800 years.[18] In his last comments about Haplogroup I tree and the conjectured spread map, he locates the start of the I2a1b1 lineage around the middle course of the Vistula.[19]

I do not give a fuck about Slavs so do not get me wrong, but since haplogroups only tells us not so much its funny that some do not want to associate a certain haplogroup with Slavs because Dinarics or Alpines and where this haplogroup has highest percentages ( not to mention a term which has zero correlation with genetics and therefore reality ) destroy image of blond Slavs.

In any case I do not know what does Ken means with the expansion that is were there brought to the south by force or not

[Artek]

I do not give a fuck about Slavs so do not get me wrong, but since haplogroups only tells us not so much its funny that some do not want to associate a certain haplogroup with Slavs because Dinarics or Alpines and where this haplogroup has highest percentages ( not to mention a term which has zero correlation with genetics and therefore reality ) destroy image of blond Slavs.

It's not about Nordicism and being blonde, don't understand me in a wrong way. I'm not a blonde and fully Nordid guy myself.
That's why I have written Pontid among other types whose skeletons were vastly found not only in a Corded Ware zone but also some older non-Slavic(let's say just Indo-European or Eurasian) cultures like Andronovo, Afnasevo etc.
It's time to deal with it that Balkans were under some process we don't understand for the most part and their slavicness is like germanicness of Irish people. They speak Germanic language and have some minor genetic input but they aren't original and descend from extinct culture.