Trojan War - historicity

[Loki]

What do you think? Was the Trojan War an actual event in history, or just based on a fairytale?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_the_Iliad

I personally believe in its historicity, but would like to hear your opinions.

[Sikeliot]

It probably happened around the time the Greeks started expanding into western Anatolia.

[SkyBurn]

Didn't Heinrich Schlieman find it, or is that still contested?

[Aredhel]

It's based in a true fact obviously but Homer and other ancient poets add the mythical stuff and turned it into a very interesting literary piece, what would it be of the Iliad without the epic battles between gods.

[Loki]

Didn't Heinrich Schlieman find it, or is that still contested?

Schlieman found a site, but that is not the most accepted one. Here it is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hisarlik

In Anatolia there were the first human settlements and cities:

Human settlement in the region

Elsewhere in Anatolia, there is abundant archaeological evidence of a thriving neolithic culture at least as early as the seventh millennium B.C. What may have been the world's first urban settlement (dated ca. 6500 B.C.) has been uncovered at Çatalhüyük in the Konya Ovasi (Konya Basin). Evidence from a cave at Karain near Antalya shows human occupation in the region extending over an estimated 25,000 year period.

[kabeiros]

I think that the Illiad is based on the actual efforts of Mycenean Greeks to colonize Asia Minor and open the gates to the Black Sea... I don't think that it was absolutely accurate about the historical events but it grasped the general meaning.
Odyssey, on the other hand, reminds me the adventures of the Sea Peoples, which happened around that period... Odysseus is a kind of pirate-hero who travels (and sometimes plunders) the Mediterranean regions.

[Adrian]

Schlieman found a site, but that is not the most accepted one. Here it is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hisarlik

In Anatolia there were the first human settlements and cities:

Human settlement in the region

Elsewhere in Anatolia, there is abundant archaeological evidence of a thriving neolithic culture at least as early as the seventh millennium B.C. What may have been the world's first urban settlement (dated ca. 6500 B.C.) has been uncovered at Çatalhüyük in the Konya Ovasi (Konya Basin).

From the same - Early Neolithic - period.

Earliest farming site in Europe found in Albania

The discovery of one of the oldest farming communities in Europe that used domesticated animals was reported by Susan Allen, a professor in the University of Cincinnati (UC) Department of Anthropology and Ilirjan Gjipali of the Albanian Institute of Archaeology at the UC web site on April 16, 2012. The research will be presented April 20 at the annual meeting of the Society for American Archaeology (SAA).

Vashtëmi, located in southeastern Albania, is one of the earliest known Early Neolithic farming sites ever discovered in Europe and dates to 6500 B.C. Photographs of the site can be seen at the UC News web site here.

Evidence from the dig site indicates that prehistoric Albanian farmers grew emmer, einkorn and barley. These earliest of farmers were also documented to have raised pigs, cattle, sheep and goats that are assumed by the researchers to have been acquired from other areas of the Near East.

The archeological evidence unearthed so far indicates the availability of other sources of food like deer, wild hogs, and fish as well as the water sources were a primary factor in the Early Neolithic Albanians choice of the area. Framing was in its infancy at the time and was not considered a primary factor in the choice of the site as a home by Early Neolithic Albanians but the wetland nature of the area actually improved the capabilities of these first European farmers.

This is the first such discovery in Albania. The discovery was the first made as a cooperative effort between scientists from Spain, France, Greece Albania, and the United States under the auspices of the Southern Albania Neolithic Archaeological Project (SANAP).

http://www.examiner.com/article/earl...-found-albania

[archangel]

trojans were Türks who migrated from north

[wvwvw]

trojans were Türks who migrated from north

I thought Turks originated from the Turks and Caicos islands;

[Loki]

Hisarlik (Turkish: Hisarlık, "Place of Fortresses"), often spelled Hissarlik, is the modern name for the site of ancient Troy, also known as Ilion, and is located in what is now Turkey (historically Anatolia). The unoccupied archaeological site lies approximately 6.5 km from the Aegean Sea and equidistant from the Dardanelles.