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    Judging by the ethnographic maps of the area in the 19th century, wouldnt you say that there are over 300,000?

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    Interesting for a first post. But anyway....

    Here is a ethnographic map from 1918 showing where Macedonian Slavs were a majority in Northern Greece (Aegean Macedonia).

    Hellenism in the Near East


    Thousands of Macedonians have been kicked out of Northern Greece since then, so the number of Macedonians have gone down. The Macedonians who remained in Greece are now mostly all fully Hellenized by now, which makes it hard to estimate. There probably was 300,000 plus Macedonians in todays northern Greece at one stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcelow View Post
    Judging by the ethnographic maps of the area in the 19th century, wouldnt you say that there are over 300,000?
    Comparing numbers from the early 1900's to today is just not realistic.

    If you are asking how many people in todays Greek Macedonia are from slavic speaking ancestors then you are about right anywhere from 250,000 - 500,000.

    When you ask how many dont feel Greek then the number goes way way down to about 2000-5000 . This is the 'oppressed minority' lol

    Considering the idiom is almost dead and gone nowadays , there really are no 'Slavophones' left.

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    Do you think that they are over 100,000 people?

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    Sorcelow, are you a Grkoman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    Interesting for a first post. But anyway....

    Here is a ethnographic map from 1918 showing where Macedonian Slavs were a majority in Northern Greece (Aegean Macedonia).

    Hellenism in the Near East


    Thousands of Macedonians have been kicked out of Northern Greece since then, so the number of Macedonians have gone down. The Macedonians who remained in Greece are now mostly all fully Hellenized by now, which makes it hard to estimate. There probably was 300,000 plus Macedonians in todays northern Greece at one stage.
    Why would you post a map made by a Greek, when you are a slav? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcelow View Post
    Why would you post a map made by a Greek, when you are a slav? lol
    Why does that matter? It makes it better for us that a Greek recognized Macedonians in the map.

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    No I am not, im from southern Greece, but i had recently met someone from Florina who who I believe to be a Grkoman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    Why does that matter? It makes it better for us that a Greek recognized Macedonians in the map.
    Because, it shows many more Greeks in Greek Macedonia than Slavophones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcelow View Post
    Judging by the ethnographic maps of the area in the 19th century, wouldnt you say that there are over 300,000?
    Haha, not even the 1/10 of those

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