Ilirida project

[Bugarash]

Current situation




How things will look in 2013 when the municipalities of Zajas,Oslomej,Drugovo and Vranestica are abolished and join the municipality of Kicevo-after which Kicevo will become a majority albanian municipality



Very smart strategy being pushed by the albanians here...as you can see they are trying to attach the municipalities together starting from Kumanovo till Struga so that in the future they can have a good base to ask for Macedonia to become a federal unit.

[Bugarash]

Now I will get to the Kicevo issue and how things stand there later...

Meanwhile here is a more detailed picture

numbers 9 and 10 are the majority turkish municipalities-Centar Zupa and Plasnica.



I will start with the minicipalities that from the 2002 census till now have transformed from majority macedonian or mixed to majority albanian or majority muslim.

1.Caska municipality
2.Dolneni Municipality
3.Jagunovce Municipality-the situation here is still unsure,I would go for the 50/50 odds for a 50/50%
but for the other two it's certain.

I would focus on Caska and Dolneni municipalities because the albanians by takingover them,have established domination in Central Macedonia.

Here are the trends for Caska and Dolneni-births/deaths 2008-2009-2010

Caska municipality

2002 census-7.673 total population

Macedonians-4.395
Albanians-2.703
Turks-391


Macedonians

36/70
37/67
37/66


Albanians

49/18
95/14
109/12


Turks

2/1
0/3
6/1

Dolneni Municipality

2002 census-13.568 total population

Macedonians-4.871
Albanians-3.616
Turks-2.597
Bosniaks-2.380


Macedonians

37/97
42/89
41/77


Albanians

106/20
85/23
88/17


Turks

32/10
38/11
37/18


Bosniaks

12/5
10/11
13/12

[Vojnik]

Maybe all ethnic Macedonians from the diaspora should return to the home land to re-populate the place. That would help alot.

[Bugarash]

Maybe all ethnic Macedonians from the diaspora should return to the home land to re-populate the place.

Yeah you will make someone from Sydney to go in some god forgotten village where the bread truck comes once a week.

[Vojnik]

Ohrid framework agreement:

1.2. Macedonia's sovereignty and territorial integrity, and the unitary character of the State are inviolable
and must be preserved. There are no territorial solutions to ethnic issues.

http://www.ucd.ie/ibis/filestore/Ohr...0Agreement.pdf

[Vojnik]

Yeah you will make someone from Sydney to go in some god forgotten village where the bread truck comes once a week.

Yeah, sadly that would never happen. Maybe if the living conditions were a bit better.

[Bugarash]

The Ohrid agreement is just a phase...
the albanians currently are two steps away from making Macedonia de facto a federation

1.albanian language becoming official on the entire territory
2.albanians becoming a constitutional element-on the ranks of the macedonians.

[Bugarash]

The Black municipalities are unfortunately the ''buffer zones'' alongside the albanian areas.

The demographic situation in these municipalities is catastrophic.

4.Makedonski Brod
5.Debarca
6.Demir Hisar
7.Staro Nagoricane
8.Novaci

in the future the albanians will probably want to attach these municipalities with a large territory but with a small and dying populatio to the big albanian municipalities just like they did with Vranestica and Drugovo.

[Vojnik]

The Ohrid agreement is just a phase...
the albanians currently are two steps away from making Macedonia de facto a federation

1.albanian language becoming official on the entire territory
2.albanians becoming a constitutional element

It can not become official on the entire territory. Majority Macedonian areas such as Strumica, Bitola, Prilep, Gevgelija etc, will not allow Albanian to become official because there is no point considering those areas have only 0%-10% Albanians. Why would you need to learn Albanian when when there is no need for it.

[Bugarash]

It can not become official on the entire territory. Majority Macedonian areas such as Strumica, Bitola, Prilep, Gevgelija etc, will not allow Albanian to become official because there is no point considering those areas have only 0%-10% Albanians. Why would you need to learn Albanian when when there is no need for it.

In Sarajevo,the serbs are 1-2% of the total population but still the cyrilic script can be found on official signs and government and municipality buildings.