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Slovak nationalism
Jan Slota, the key figure of Slovak nationalism.
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With nationalists like this, Europe will survive!
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Surely, you jest. He seems nothing more than an exceedingly vulgar old curmudgeon with an overfondness for cognac.
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Ah, and yet again, might internet warrior Hamvas strikes again on his conquest for the 'lost' territories
Fear not, Slovaks have more than fine nationalists:
http://www.nss.sk/
http://www.sho.sk/
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The real name of Slovakia is in fact Felvidék, "the upper region". It is the mountain area of Hungary where for centuries Hungarians and local Slavic speaking people lived side by side. The name and concept of "Slovakia" was invented in the 19th century in order to split up Hungary.
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*yaaaaaaaaaawns*
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What's with the imperialism?
Fine, I don't know the first thing about the Balkan myself, so if I'm wrong I'd appreciate if a Slav could correct me. When I see stuff like this, what I really read is:
for centuries Hungarians and local Slavic speaking people lived side by sideYou admit yourself there were 2 kinds of people living there. That means the old Hungarian empire was a multicultural haven then?Centuries ago we had an empire and slavs to clean our boots. Give us our servants back.
The claims that Slovakia needs to be Hungarian again sound as ridiculous as claiming Flanders needs to become ruled by Austria again. (actually, since we were personal property of the Habsburgs, and the Austro-Hungarian empire was based on that same clan ... cool. When will you claim Flanders belongs to you as well?)
When good men are the rulers and the program-makers for a society, the population as a whole will reflect this, and people with no
originality or moral sense of direction of their own will nevertheless fervently support the highest aims of their society. But when evil
men rule, as has been the case in the Western World for many years now, most of the population will wallow happily in degeneracy of the worst
kind and will self-righteously parrot every filthy and destructive idea that they have been taught.
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No, no, it's not about that. There were plenty of lesser nobles of Slav ethnic stock, who spoke some variety of local Slavic dialect, but nevertheless belonged to the Hungarian Kingdom, for which they did many services: military leaders, priests etc. And they felt as Hungarians, in their writings there is no trace of some special "Slovak" consciousness. It was not opposition: masters vs. boot cleaners, whereby the former would be Hungarian speakers and the latter Slavic speakers, since there were both masters and servants among the both ethnic-linguistic groups. Plus the fact that the area where Hungarian was spoken in today's Slovakia was much larger before the ethnic "cleansings" (expulsions) done after the First and the Second world wars.Originally Posted by Kempenzoon
Hungary was never empire, but kingdom.
Felvidék/"Slovakia" is unrelated to the Balkans in any sense. It is Carpathian basin.
Two ethnic/linguistic groups, forming part of one and the same Hungarian nation, symbolized by the Holy Crown of Saint Stephen.
There were no problems until the pan-Slavist agitation started in 19th century, stirred partly by the Habsburgs, in anti-Hungarian function. But still, during the 1848/49 revolution plenty of ethnic Slavs from the Felvidék fought alonside the rest of Hungary, for freedom, whereas only a group of about one thousand Slavs joined the pro-Habsburg military detachment led by Ludovik Štur.
There were some attempts at linguistic Hungarisation, but that was wrong. I am for keeping regional varieties within nations. And that is not multiculturalism.
It is not the same thing. And Flanders belongs together with the Netherlands anyway. Or not?The claims that Slovakia needs to be Hungarian again sound as ridiculous as claiming Flanders needs to become ruled by Austria again. (actually, since we were personal property of the Habsburgs, and the Austro-Hungarian empire was based on that same clan ... cool. When will you claim Flanders belongs to you as well?)
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No, we belong currently to a multicultural nation that believes in 'keeping regional varieties within nations'.And Flanders belongs together with the Netherlands anyway. Or not?
While I believe that if the regional varieties are TOO varied, then you're plainly speaking of separate nations instead.
When good men are the rulers and the program-makers for a society, the population as a whole will reflect this, and people with no
originality or moral sense of direction of their own will nevertheless fervently support the highest aims of their society. But when evil
men rule, as has been the case in the Western World for many years now, most of the population will wallow happily in degeneracy of the worst
kind and will self-righteously parrot every filthy and destructive idea that they have been taught.
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Oh right. Apologies for that. I didn't realise until now. I mixed it up with Slovenia I think. But other than location, it doesn't change the core of the argument.Felvidék/"Slovakia" is unrelated to the Balkans in any sense. It is Carpathian basin.
When good men are the rulers and the program-makers for a society, the population as a whole will reflect this, and people with no
originality or moral sense of direction of their own will nevertheless fervently support the highest aims of their society. But when evil
men rule, as has been the case in the Western World for many years now, most of the population will wallow happily in degeneracy of the worst
kind and will self-righteously parrot every filthy and destructive idea that they have been taught.
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I know Flanders is formally currently part of the country (not nation) called Belgium.
I was speaking of the ethnic belonging, that Flanders ethnically belongs (should belong) with the Netherlands, and that many Flemings long to detach themselves from Belgium and form some kind of federation/confederation withe the Netherlands.
And all European nations have regional diversities, in dialects, customs, religion etc. I was not referring to diversities of the Belgian sort.
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