Empire : What future for 'Greater Israel'?

[The Lawspeaker]

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Empire : What future for 'Greater Israel'?

The Middle East 'peace process' is seriously deadlocked. Israel is determined to press ahead with the expansion of settlements. Palestinians refuse to accept anything less than their total freeze, but they are divided on the best way forward - diplomacy or resistance. The diplomatic vacuum leads to more unilateral policies and radicalisation. So how can the international community help? Is a two-state solution still possible, or one state or no state?

[MST3K]

Back to the 1967 borders or GTFO.

[Contra Mundum]

Israel can be bold because of their control of Washington. If the Jews fail in Israel, they know they have a home in America and Germany, so their survival isn't at risk. I predict the Jews will do everything they can to drive the rest of the Palestinians out.

[Anarch]

Israel's core population (i.e. the population which forms the foundation of Israel's political community, in this case, Jews) has neither the growth rate nor the proportionate size to field the manpower necessary to conquer territories included in the concept of Greater Israel or to purge those territories of their native inhabitants. Greater Israel has no foreseeable future.

[Odin]

[TheMaestro]

It is possible look how high jewish figures are already destroying Syria or Iraq. And Saudi Arabia? Until Saudis have oil they can wipe Israel any time.

[Odin]

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[Jaromir]

Greater Khazar Empire will rise again

[sean]

Greater Israel is a meme at this point. The only way that happens is if Israel invades and takes the land itself. Israel isn't capable. They have enough undeveloped desert.

Last time they tried was right after the Six-Day War but printing the money necessary to maintain expansion to West Bank by itself almost drove Israel to inflation based bankruptcy and complete collapse in less than 20 years.

The only land Israel has taken was in wars instigated by the Arabs. Arabs aren't capable either. The only reason Gulf nations have oil and Dubai has tourists is the fact both allowed foreign experts and workers to develop those markets. America is capable but has never given any land it has taken to Israel.

Greater Israel isn't only land annexations. It's to make subservient states in the Middle East (Yinon Plan). So they won't hamper Israeli interests alongside removing all major rivals. They were allied with Iran against Iraq, then with Azeris against Iran. They've worked with Turkey before Erdogan to limit Arab power, they have collaborated with France and the UK against Egypt. They're now working with UAE, Bahrain and KSA against Iran.

Egypt since Sinai was receded is one of the few Muslim nations to recognise the state (after Nasser, Ba'athism was never a real threat to Israel), this model is what they've attempted through proxies as well. They tried it in Lebanon with the SLA, and the Free Syrian Army. Both these groups main goal isn't to halt Zionist expansion, and their interests perfectly correlate with Israel. They prefer client states for a buffer zone/elimination of their main enemies. Hence why they're hellbent on lobbying an invasion of Iran.

They've created an alliance with Cyprus and Greece against Turkey even while they're far from being directly threatened by the Turks, but as a precaution. They've worked with South Africa on their nuclear weapons project, and they're making deals with Russia to limit the power of Iran in the region.

They benefit a lot from instability in hostile MENA countries far away from them (war with those countries would be hell), provided they send refugees to the western countries that later vote to boycott Israel.

Another country that does well by exploiting collaborations is Iran. Their style is sectarian and based on religion. But they successfully leveraged the Shia communities across the Middle East for their own benefit.