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    "We have many times heard from the Macedonists that they are not Bulgarians but Macedonians,descendants of the Ancient Macedonians" - Slaveykov ( Year: 1871)

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    Vojnik brate, l've been really busy lately, but l will say the following. I don't have an obession with Macedonians but l have an obession to burst the Bulgarian propaganda that is associated with Southern Serbia/Macedonia. Vojnik, listen man, l will get stabbed by Macedonians so many times and l will keep forgiving you guys, but l will never let a Bulgar get away with it. The problem is that the internet is flooded with Bulgarian propaganda which is hard not to look past it, you must, and say you must go, elsewhere to find the TRUTH, don't rely on the net and don't rely even on your family nor yugoslav propaganda as well. It took me years to find the TRUTH and the Bulgars hate it.

    There is many quotes and sources l have at my disposal, l have an old one here right in front of me, it happens to be at ZERO Bulgarian Influence and Zero Serbian Influence (Ottoman Empire):

    Mitropolit Jeremiah from the City of "Pelagon" (Bitolj) went to Russia in 1603 saying that he comed from Serbian land.

    Archive of the Russian Ministry For Foreign Affairs, Year 7112,Dec.19


    would you like another one, o.k:

    Archbiscop of Ohrid Avram in 1634 arrived in Russia with escort.When asked,they said they were Greeks from the Serbian land of Ohrid (Grechane Serpskie zemli iz Ahridona Goroda).

    Archive of the Russian Ministry Of Foreign Affairs, Year 7142,No 8


    Since you gave me three, l will also re-pay you the favour:

    Austrian Emperor Leopold proclaimed Jovan Monastirlija from Bitolj a Vojvoda (Military chieftain) of the Serbian nation in Austria in 1691.

    Trifunoski,F.J. "Makedoniziranje Juzhne Srbije" Beograd 1995 pp.24


    Why not one more:

    The Urgent Congregation of Roman Catholic Church in 1742 issued an report which states that "Serbs of Greek Rite" are peopling Croatia,Slavonia,Hungary,Serbia,Thrace,Macedonia,A lbania and Montenegro.

    Archivum Sacrae Congregationis de Propaganda Fide."Congregazioni Particolari"Vol.106.Fol.1



    Most of my quotes here are prior to the 20th century and Bulgarian Exarchos, they are during the OTTOMAN EMPIRE!

    In 1644 a Serb,Dimitrije Nikolajev (Serbjanin' Dmitrei Nikolaev) from Kastoria, arrived in Russia.

    Archive of the Russian Ministry For Foreign Affairs,Year 7156

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novi Pazar View Post
    I don't have an obession with Macedonians
    Oh, really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Novi Pazar View Post
    but l have an obession to burst the Bulgarian propaganda that is associated with Southern Serbia/Macedonia. Vojnik, listen man, l will get stabbed by Macedonians so many times and l will keep forgiving you guys, but l will never let a Bulgar get away with it. The problem is that the internet is flooded with Bulgarian propaganda which is hard not to look past it, you must, and say you must go, elsewhere to find the TRUTH, don't rely on the net and don't rely even on your family nor yugoslav propaganda as well. It took me years to find the TRUTH and the Bulgars hate it.
    Everything which you do not agree is propaganda. It seems that you are really butthurt to spend years for "finding the truth".

    Quote Originally Posted by Novi Pazar View Post
    There is many quotes and sources l have at my disposal, l have an old one here right in front of me, it happens to be at ZERO Bulgarian Influence and Zero Serbian Influence (Ottoman Empire):

    Mitropolit Jeremiah from the City of "Pelagon" (Bitolj) went to Russia in 1603 saying that he comed from Serbian land.

    Archive of the Russian Ministry For Foreign Affairs, Year 7112,Dec.19


    would you like another one, o.k:

    Archbiscop of Ohrid Avram in 1634 arrived in Russia with escort.When asked,they said they were Greeks from the Serbian land of Ohrid (Grechane Serpskie zemli iz Ahridona Goroda).

    Archive of the Russian Ministry Of Foreign Affairs, Year 7142,No 8


    Since you gave me three, l will also re-pay you the favour:

    Austrian Emperor Leopold proclaimed Jovan Monastirlija from Bitolj a Vojvoda (Military chieftain) of the Serbian nation in Austria in 1691.

    Trifunoski,F.J. "Makedoniziranje Juzhne Srbije" Beograd 1995 pp.24


    Why not one more:

    The Urgent Congregation of Roman Catholic Church in 1742 issued an report which states that "Serbs of Greek Rite" are peopling Croatia,Slavonia,Hungary,Serbia,Thrace,Macedonia,A lbania and Montenegro.

    Archivum Sacrae Congregationis de Propaganda Fide."Congregazioni Particolari"Vol.106.Fol.1



    Most of my quotes here are prior to the 20th century and Bulgarian Exarchos, they are during the OTTOMAN EMPIRE!

    In 1644 a Serb,Dimitrije Nikolajev (Serbjanin' Dmitrei Nikolaev) from Kastoria, arrived in Russia.

    Archive of the Russian Ministry For Foreign Affairs,Year 7156
    I can show you thousand of such quotes, proves and events, happened in Macedonia, which prove the Bulgarian character of the region. But unfortunately, nobody has the time (years) like you to deal with this.

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    ^ Sure, l can even add thousand more prior from 1872. You only have sources from Venelin ONWARDS! Most of them, 99%, will be from the LATE 19th century (1872 - 1912).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    "We have many times heard from the Macedonists that they are not Bulgarians but Macedonians,descendants of the Ancient Macedonians" - Slaveykov ( Year: 1871)
    Vojnik, are you aware of the context of this statement by Slaveykov? It is aimed at the Bulgarophone Patriarchists in Macedonia who despite being ethnic Bulgarians decided to join the Greek nation.

    Before the Greeks reinstated the name Macedonia the local Bulgarians refered to the region as Lower Moesia or Lower Bulgaria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morski View Post
    Vojnik, are you aware of the context of this statement by Slaveykov? It is aimed at the Bulgarophone Patriarchists in Macedonia who despite being ethnic Bulgarians decided to join the Greek nation.

    Before the Greeks reinstated the name Macedonia the local Bulgarians refered to the region as Lower Moesia or Lower Bulgaria.
    morski, brat, do you have anything to back that up, or is it merely just you're own personal interpretation of that quote?

    Macedonians have been documented expressing that they are decendents of Ancient Macedonians and Alexander the Great. Check out this manifesto taken from the book titled, "Discourses of Collective Identity in Central and Southeast Europe (1770-1945) edited by Balázs Trencsényi, Michal Kopeček, page 484-485". which I will post in this thread.

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...79#post1066279

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    Quote Originally Posted by morski View Post
    Vojnik, are you aware of the context of this statement by Slaveykov? It is aimed at the Bulgarophone Patriarchists in Macedonia who despite being ethnic Bulgarians decided to join the Greek nation.

    Before the Greeks reinstated the name Macedonia the local Bulgarians refered to the region as Lower Moesia or Lower Bulgaria.
    Thats actually not true Morski. It doesn't mean when one just joins the Exarchos they are Bulgars! There were many who still wanted to remain with the Patriarchate!

    Do you want me to explain why Macedonian Serbs had these feelings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novi Pazar View Post
    Thats actually not true Morski. It doesn't mean when one just joins the Exarchos they are Bulgars! There were many who still wanted to remain with the Patriarchate!

    Do you want me to explain why Macedonian Serbs had these feelings?

    You don't have a clue to what I said, do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    I am absolutely disgusted at this.
    Why? Allergic on $ or something ? It was the only way for you to obtain a large amount of money needed to rebuild what has been ruined. Not a big deal.

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