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    Jordan Ivanov, the chief Bulgarian authority on the Bulgarian character of Macedonia, was able to quote only a few cases in which the name "Bulgarian" was mentioned in Southern Serbia (Macedonia) before the exarchists began their work. The earliest of these date from 1474: the Consilium Rogatorum of Dubrovnik decided to grant alms to the extent of twenty perpers to the Bulgarian monastery of St. Joachim Osogovski, whose abbot, Gervasije, stated at an audience in Moscow in 1586 that he came "from the Bulgarian lands." In 1686, the Patriarch Arsenije III Crnojevic visited this monastery: at the end of a Gospel at Pec, he wrote a note stating that he had been at the monastery of Osogovo, where there was "some disorganization in Church matters." On two occasions in the year 1704 VELJKO POPOVIC of Kratovo says that he was born "in the Bulgarian lands, in the place known as Kratovo," while in 1753 the nun Ana says that she "was born in Kratovo, in Bulgaria." In 1818, a certain NESO MARKOVIC, a merchant from Kratovo, printed in Budapest a calendar "for the cenvenience of the Bulgarian people." In 1619, we find mention, in an inscription in a church at Vodensk, of "Angelaki, grand secretary of Justiniana I and all Bulgaria." In the legend entitled "Slovo Kirila Filosofa kako uvjeri Bugare" (The Tale of how Cyril the Philosopher Converted the Bulgars), it is stated that the city of Ravanj is in Bregalnica and that Cyril was brought there by Bulgars. In a manuscript at the monastery of Zograf, it is stated that Pirot is situated in "the Bulgarian lands." The same is said of the whole Pelagonia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novi Pazar View Post
    Jordan Ivanov, the chief Bulgarian authority on the Bulgarian character of Macedonia, was able to quote only a few cases in which the name "Bulgarian" was mentioned in Southern Serbia (Macedonia) before the exarchists began their work. The earliest of these date from 1474: the Consilium Rogatorum of Dubrovnik decided to grant alms to the extent of twenty perpers to the Bulgarian monastery of St. Joachim Osogovski, whose abbot, Gervasije, stated at an audience in Moscow in 1586 that he came "from the Bulgarian lands." In 1686, the Patriarch Arsenije III Crnojevic visited this monastery: at the end of a Gospel at Pec, he wrote a note stating that he had been at the monastery of Osogovo, where there was "some disorganization in Church matters." On two occasions in the year 1704 VELJKO POPOVIC of Kratovo says that he was born "in the Bulgarian lands, in the place known as Kratovo," while in 1753 the nun Ana says that she "was born in Kratovo, in Bulgaria." In 1818, a certain NESO MARKOVIC, a merchant from Kratovo, printed in Budapest a calendar "for the cenvenience of the Bulgarian people." In 1619, we find mention, in an inscription in a church at Vodensk, of "Angelaki, grand secretary of Justiniana I and all Bulgaria." In the legend entitled "Slovo Kirila Filosofa kako uvjeri Bugare" (The Tale of how Cyril the Philosopher Converted the Bulgars), it is stated that the city of Ravanj is in Bregalnica and that Cyril was brought there by Bulgars. In a manuscript at the monastery of Zograf, it is stated that Pirot is situated in "the Bulgarian lands." The same is said of the whole Pelagonia.

    Readers, if you want me to talk about Kratovo, please let me know because Kratovo was a SERBIAN CENTER!

    Tokyo was a Serb center as well.

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    Another provoking thread from Novi Pazar.

    Mods, please ban this troll, Isn't he ashamed to post thing such as this, when he knows that his people have commited a lot bad deeds against Bulgaria?

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    I'm sorry that my TRUTH telling doesn't comply with mythical bulgarian propaganda. Truth be told, Jordan Ivanov ONLY managed to find a FEW QUOTERS in which the name Bulgaria was used in Southern Serbia (Macedonia) prior to the work of the Exarchists (1872 through to 1912)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novi Pazar View Post
    I'm sorry that my TRUTH telling doesn't comply with mythical bulgarian propaganda. Truth be told, Jordan Ivanov ONLY managed to find a FEW QUOTERS in which the name Bulgaria was used in Southern Serbia (Macedonia) prior to the work of the Exarchists (1872 through to 1912)











    What are you going to say about these maps, shumadiiski?

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    ^ 19th century errors because travellors were void of historical knowledge. Maps above ARE prior to Bulgarian Exarchate period.

    You want to know something, then check this link out:

    http://historymedren.about.com/libra...tmapeur814.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novi Pazar View Post
    ^ 19th century errors because travellors were void of historical knowledge.
    You made my day, man.


    Quote Originally Posted by Novi Pazar View Post
    Maps above ARE prior to Bulgarian Exarchate period.
    The Bulgarian Exarchate is since 1872', Dumbo. Some of the maps which i showed are from 1847!
    The Exarchate included also North Dobrogea, which is not majority Bulgarian, the same is with Western Macedonia, you can see it on the maps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Novi Pazar View Post
    You want to know something, then check this link out:

    http://historymedren.about.com/libra...tmapeur814.htm
    So half Greece is Serbian? You are really funny.

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