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  • Dodecad: V3.

    12 6.59%
  • Dodecad: Africa 9.

    1 0.55%
  • Dodecad: World 9.

    8 4.40%
  • Dodecad: K7b.

    3 1.65%
  • Dodecad: K12b.

    21 11.54%
  • Eurogenes: K9.

    0 0%
  • Eurogenes: K10.

    0 0%
  • Eurogenes: K11.

    0 0%
  • Eurogenes: K12.

    3 1.65%
  • Eurogenes: K12b.

    7 3.85%
  • Eurogenes: K13.

    73 40.11%
  • Eurogenes: Hunter_Gatherer vs. Farmer.

    9 4.95%
  • Harappa World.

    6 3.30%
  • MDLP.

    35 19.23%
  • DNA Tribes SNP Analysis.

    4 2.20%
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    Dude, shifted places between Irish and English would be Scottish AFAIK and only one or two Gedmatch calculators give me Scottish
    I noticed how while MDLP got me high English and Irish, Scottish is at or near the bottom. I did not expect this at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erronkari View Post
    Unhappily It's not hehe.
    Maybe in ten years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordarya View Post
    I noticed how while MDLP got me high English and Irish, Scottish is at or near the bottom. I did not expect this at all.
    MDLP gives me Cornish and Irish. Puntdnal gives me English, Scottish and Irish.. Eurogenes gives me Irish, English and Orcadian. Eurogenes K36 mapping gives me Dutch. Eurogenes G25 gives me Dutch. Dodecad gives me mixed_Germanic etc... It is all over the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    MDLP gives me Cornish and Irish. Puntdnal gives me English, Scottish and Irish.. Eurogenes gives me Irish, English and Orcadian. Eurogenes K36 mapping gives me Dutch. Eurogenes G25 gives me Dutch. Dodecad gives me mixed_Germanic etc... It is all over the place.
    Cornish, Irish, English, Scottish, Orcadian are all British Isles, hence UK, plus Dutch, hence Mixed Germanic. If you're Mixed Germanic, that's exactly why you have this variation. You're not exactly overall one to the exclusion of the other. It's all aggregate, so you fit this here:


    Guillaume III de Nassau (1650-1702)
    Prince d'Orange et Roi d'Angleterre
    Ecartelé : 1 et 4, contre-écartelé : 1 et 4, de France moderne;
    2 et 3, d'Angleterre moderne;
    2, d'Ecosse; 3, d'Irlande;
    sur le tout, de Nassau.


    Or, remove France and substitute Hannover for Holland:



    Le męme
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    Ecartelé : 1 et 4, d'Angleterre moderne; 2, d'Ecosse; 3, d'Irlande; sur le tout, parti : 1, de Brunswick; 2, de Lunebourg; enté en pointe de Westphalie (Basse-Saxe); une couronne royale coiffant le sur-le-tout; et sur le tout du tout, de la dignité d'Archi-Sénéchal de l'Empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordarya View Post
    Cornish, Irish, English, Scottish, Orcadian are all British Isles, hence UK, plus Dutch, hence Mixed Germanic. If you're Mixed Germanic, that's exactly why you have this variation. You're not exactly overall one to the exclusion of the other. It's all aggregate, so you fit this here:


    Guillaume III de Nassau (1650-1702)
    Prince d'Orange et Roi d'Angleterre
    Ecartelé : 1 et 4, contre-écartelé : 1 et 4, de France moderne;
    2 et 3, d'Angleterre moderne;
    2, d'Ecosse; 3, d'Irlande;
    sur le tout, de Nassau.


    Or, remove France and substitute Hannover for Holland:



    Le męme
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    Ecartelé : 1 et 4, d'Angleterre moderne; 2, d'Ecosse; 3, d'Irlande; sur le tout, parti : 1, de Brunswick; 2, de Lunebourg; enté en pointe de Westphalie (Basse-Saxe); une couronne royale coiffant le sur-le-tout; et sur le tout du tout, de la dignité d'Archi-Sénéchal de l'Empire.
    Hmm, I see, thanks. It is still kind of convoluted I think, though. Even if I am Generic mixed-Germanic I expected to clearly be closest to one of the following : lowland Scots, English or Dutch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    Hmm, I see, thanks. It is still kind of convoluted I think, though. Even if I am Generic mixed-Germanic I expected to clearly be closest to one of the following : lowland Scots, English or Dutch.
    It's less and less likely with each generation of British and American life, that any specific type of Briton will be necessarily one without also exhibiting genes indicative of the other, while Utahn and Mixed Germanic seem to be representative of American DNA, as opposed to other New World source populations of Mestizo and Mulatto origins. In point of fact, only MDLP K23b shows my Italo-Celtic ancestors and the rest of the tests pretty much dilutes them for Germanic ancestors from Germany and Holland, probably being that they are naturally the closest to English. Even then, to read Quebecois as Belgian and New Yorker as Frisian, shows the Nordicisation of my eugenics, probably by combination with the German, but without actually showing German near the top results--I'd call that shifting. Assimilation of quasi-Italo-Celtic Belgian and Irish seems to be a westward shift over the many hundreds of years by Germanic folks, so really, Belgian would be represented by Frisian and Irish would be lost within the English, beginning linguistically.

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    My True Ancestry

    Your closest Ancient populations...
    Viking Danish + Frank (3.863)
    Viking Danish + Visigoth (3.992)
    Celt + Frank (4.192)
    Saxon + Frank (4.214)
    Visigoth + Saxon (4.487)
    Saxon (4.585)
    Frank (5.992)
    Viking Danish (6.275)
    Visigoth (6.745)
    Celt (7.793)

    Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
    (Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)

    1. Late Iron Age Linton Cambridgeshire (205 BC) ..... 4.49 -
    Top 98% match vs all users

    3. Medieval Netherlands Plague II (1360 AD) ..... 5.012 - ?
    Top 98% match vs all users

    5. Bronze Age Dagger Koenigsbrunn (2046 BC) ..... 5.763 -
    Top 99% match vs all users

    7. Post Viking Denmark Odense (1250 AD) ..... 6.275 -
    Top 91% match vs all users

    9. North Sea Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 6.305 -
    Top 99% match vs all users

    11. Bell Beaker Scotland (2100 BC) ..... 6.469 -
    Top 93% match vs all users

    13. Early Bronze Age Thames (1800 BC) ..... 6.56 -
    Top 87% match vs all users

    15. Celto-Germanic Medieval Denmark (1270 AD) ..... 6.833 -
    Top 90% match vs all users

    17. High Status Male Haunstetten (1946 BC) ..... 7.003 -
    Top 93% match vs all users

    19. Viking Saxon Iceland (1104 AD) ..... 7.187 -
    Top 94% match vs all users

    You have ancient relatives! (you share identified DNA segments)

    Norwegian Viking Iceland
    1000 AD
    STT-A2

    Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 93)
    9 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 197.11 cM
    Largest segment=368 SNPs / 74.27 cM

    Your raw DNA is 25% closer than other matching users

    Your closest genetic modern populations...

    1. Southwest_English (3.712)
    2. Southeast_English (4.724)
    3. Flemish (5.394)
    4. Welsh (5.781)
    5. South_Dutch (6.128)
    6. Danish (6.687)
    7. West_Scottish (6.996)
    8. North_Dutch (7.007)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Please share your admixture proportions from Eurogenes K13, K15 and Dodecad K12b. I'd like to take a look.
    I will accept 6/8 Nordic and 2/8 Mediterranean. Four of my great-grandfathers are patrilineally and two of my great-grandmothers are matrilineally English through America. Two of my great-grandmothers are matrilineally French through Canada. The Canadian French great-grandmothers I have most recently traced to are at least paternally from Touraine in Anjou (Central France) and Poitou in Aquitaine and Gascony (Western France), which is why MDLP K16 shows France (Living DNA) and West France (Ancestry DNA) as top proximities. Plus, my New York Dutch great-great-grandfather was said to be Huguenot, but with actual Dutch and German, including Bavarian and Austrian on his side of the family making up the majority of recent ancestry, which explains the Italian and Hungarian similarities further off. I have noticed that some of my phenotype is similar to Quebecois and Acadian classmates, as well as those of Dutch origin from New York because of this. Overall, I do have a less Mediterranean than Nordic phenotype, but it is undeniable that I do have the former and this may make me stick out in either crowd, although I would fit right into British English and American English society as well as the Channel Islands and Ontario. My True Ancestry, in addition to Danish, Saxon, Frank and Celt, called the Aquitainian ancestry Visigoth and also showed Ostrogoth in their pie chart of me. I hadn't thought much of the admixture proportions from Gedmatch until I saw them reflected on My True Ancestry, which seems better than Gedmatch and Your DNA Portal, to link ancient and modern populations. I have all my answers now.

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    Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Southeast_English @ 3.319830
    2 South_Dutch @ 4.927596
    3 Southwest_English @ 5.808263
    4 Orcadian @ 5.999295
    5 West_German @ 6.432647
    6 North_Dutch @ 6.928951
    7 Danish @ 7.093607
    8 Irish @ 7.529025
    9 West_Scottish @ 7.591440
    10 North_German @ 7.657410
    11 Norwegian @ 9.618147
    12 French @ 10.346629
    13 Swedish @ 11.315250
    14 Austrian @ 13.845571
    15 East_German @ 14.757143
    16 North_Swedish @ 16.982176
    17 Spanish_Cataluna @ 18.291862
    18 Hungarian @ 19.099869
    19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 19.561619
    20 Southwest_French @ 19.861553

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% South_Dutch +50% Southeast_English @ 2.263671


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Norwegian +25% Southeast_English +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.809008


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Norwegian + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.809008
    2 Danish + Norwegian + Portuguese + Southeast_English @ 1.837780
    3 Danish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.856315
    4 Norwegian + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.865530
    5 Danish + Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia + Swedish @ 1.866226
    6 Norwegian + Norwegian + Portuguese + Southeast_English @ 1.878131
    7 Danish + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.888820
    8 Danish + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.902066
    9 Norwegian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia + Swedish @ 1.905749
    10 Danish + Danish + Norwegian + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.909614
    11 Danish + North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.918368
    12 Danish + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.922607
    13 North_Dutch + Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia + Swedish @ 1.924624
    14 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Portuguese + Southeast_English @ 1.926014
    15 Danish + Southeast_English + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish @ 1.928686
    16 Danish + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.930314
    17 Danish + Danish + Norwegian + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.938834
    18 Danish + Danish + North_Dutch + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.938857
    19 Danish + Norwegian + Orcadian + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.953504
    20 Danish + French + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 1.955925

    Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Southwest_English @ 3.434245
    2 Southeast_English @ 4.442678
    3 South_Dutch @ 6.134194
    4 Danish @ 6.347203
    5 North_Dutch @ 6.517311
    6 West_Scottish @ 6.673350
    7 Irish @ 6.700980
    8 Orcadian @ 7.240540
    9 West_German @ 7.390747
    10 North_German @ 7.567288
    11 Norwegian @ 9.221417
    12 French @ 10.220462
    13 West_Norwegian @ 10.393235
    14 Swedish @ 11.027646
    15 North_Swedish @ 13.278831
    16 East_German @ 14.049861
    17 Southwest_Finnish @ 18.268312
    18 Spanish_Galicia @ 18.698561
    19 Austrian @ 18.848518
    20 Spanish_Cataluna @ 18.990515

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Orcadian +50% South_Dutch @ 3.297670


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Norwegian +25% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.966599


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
    1 Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.966599
    2 Norwegian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Norwegian @ 2.044005
    3 Danish + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.094811
    4 Norwegian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Norwegian @ 2.094877
    5 Southeast_English + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.101661
    6 Norwegian + Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + West_Norwegian @ 2.112185
    7 Danish + Norwegian + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Norwegian @ 2.118139
    8 Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.120804
    9 Norwegian + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.138983
    10 North_Swedish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.168128
    11 Southwest_English + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.218340
    12 Danish + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.223964
    13 North_Swedish + Orcadian + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Norwegian @ 2.224650
    14 Norwegian + Orcadian + Spanish_Valencia + West_Norwegian @ 2.240021
    15 Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian + Spanish_Aragon @ 2.243985
    16 Norwegian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Norwegian @ 2.247762
    17 Norwegian + Norwegian + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Scottish @ 2.248596
    18 North_Swedish + Orcadian + Spanish_Aragon + West_Norwegian @ 2.259214
    19 North_Swedish + Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + West_Norwegian @ 2.270744
    20 North_Swedish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Portuguese @ 2.282830

    Dodecad K12b 4-Ancestors Oracle

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 4.668757
    2 Kent_1000Genomes @ 5.219136
    3 Dutch_Dodecad @ 5.621635
    4 French_Dodecad @ 5.731893
    5 CEU30_1000Genomes @ 5.897460
    6 English_Dodecad @ 5.954253
    7 French_HGDP @ 6.402415
    8 Cornwall_1000Genomes @ 6.973017
    9 British_Isles_Dodecad @ 7.208230
    10 British_Dodecad @ 7.481154
    11 Irish_Dodecad @ 8.955709
    12 Argyll_1000Genomes @ 9.030128
    13 Orcadian_HGDP @ 9.275484
    14 Orkney_1000Genomes @ 9.532488
    15 German_Dodecad @ 11.031652
    16 Norwegian_Dodecad @ 16.073387
    17 Swedish_Dodecad @ 18.512415
    18 Hungarians_Behar @ 18.764015
    19 Cataluna_1000Genomes @ 20.040613
    20 Galicia_1000Genomes @ 21.019417

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Dutch_Dodecad +50% French_Dodecad @ 1.743748


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Cornwall_1000Genomes +25% North_Italian_HGDP +25% Swedish_Dodecad @ 1.494240


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++
    1 Argyll_1000Genomes + British_Isles_Dodecad + Cataluna_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar @ 1.425753
    2 British_Dodecad + Kent_1000Genomes + N_Italian_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad @ 1.445715
    3 Cataluna_1000Genomes + English_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 1.452160
    4 Cornwall_1000Genomes + Kent_1000Genomes + N_Italian_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad @ 1.454706
    5 Cornwall_1000Genomes + French_Dodecad + French_Dodecad + German_Dodecad @ 1.463487
    6 Cataluna_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Orcadian_HGDP @ 1.467068
    7 Cataluna_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 1.467068
    8 British_Dodecad + Cornwall_1000Genomes + North_Italian_HGDP + Swedish_Dodecad @ 1.469835
    9 Cataluna_1000Genomes + English_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + Orcadian_HGDP @ 1.479170
    10 Argyll_1000Genomes + Cataluna_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Orcadian_HGDP @ 1.480815
    11 Cornwall_1000Genomes + English_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad @ 1.482975
    12 British_Dodecad + French_Dodecad + French_Dodecad + German_Dodecad @ 1.492224
    13 Cataluna_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Kent_1000Genomes + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 1.492628
    14 Argyll_1000Genomes + Cataluna_1000Genomes + English_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar @ 1.493529
    15 Cornwall_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + North_Italian_HGDP + Swedish_Dodecad @ 1.494240
    16 Argyll_1000Genomes + Cataluna_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Irish_Dodecad @ 1.498076
    17 CEU30_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + N_Italian_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad @ 1.501419
    18 British_Dodecad + British_Dodecad + North_Italian_HGDP + Swedish_Dodecad @ 1.504341
    19 Argyll_1000Genomes + Cataluna_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 1.505762
    20 Cornwall_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + N_Italian_Dodecad + Swedish_Dodecad @ 1.508179

    Ancestry DNA
    Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Southeast_English @ 3.515817
    2 South_Dutch @ 4.493276
    3 Southwest_English @ 5.879767
    4 West_German @ 5.967410
    5 Orcadian @ 6.269300
    6 North_Dutch @ 7.160378
    7 Danish @ 7.383936
    8 Irish @ 7.691188
    9 North_German @ 7.772171
    10 West_Scottish @ 7.799625
    11 French @ 9.903454
    12 Norwegian @ 9.924070
    13 Swedish @ 11.629780
    14 Austrian @ 13.722675
    15 East_German @ 14.765144
    16 North_Swedish @ 17.317295
    17 Spanish_Cataluna @ 17.896076
    18 Hungarian @ 18.986723
    19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 19.168440
    20 Spanish_Galicia @ 19.534096

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% South_Dutch +50% Southeast_English @ 1.967653


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Norwegian +25% Southeast_English +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.527989


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Danish + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.475546
    2 North_Dutch + Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia + Swedish @ 1.510960
    3 Norwegian + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.527989
    4 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.531027
    5 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Portuguese + Southeast_English @ 1.537094
    6 Danish + Norwegian + Portuguese + Southeast_English @ 1.547151
    7 Danish + North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.578539
    8 Danish + Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia + Swedish @ 1.585541
    9 Danish + North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.610777
    10 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.625628
    11 Danish + Danish + North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.638009
    12 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.641022
    13 North_German + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.648909
    14 Danish + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.664897
    15 Danish + Danish + North_Dutch + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.688160
    16 Danish + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.688371
    17 Danish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.692654
    18 Norwegian + Norwegian + Portuguese + Southeast_English @ 1.694061
    19 Danish + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.700148
    20 Danish + North_Dutch + Southeast_English + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.715080
    Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Southwest_English @ 3.687132
    2 Southeast_English @ 4.893085
    3 North_Dutch @ 6.416605
    4 Danish @ 6.556159
    5 Orcadian @ 6.691669
    6 West_Scottish @ 6.869248
    7 South_Dutch @ 6.919697
    8 West_German @ 7.028143
    9 Irish @ 7.061430
    10 North_German @ 8.091383
    11 Norwegian @ 8.879227
    12 West_Norwegian @ 9.779203
    13 French @ 10.641590
    14 Swedish @ 10.816663
    15 North_Swedish @ 13.385192
    16 East_German @ 14.713007
    17 Southwest_Finnish @ 18.953945
    18 Spanish_Galicia @ 19.140471
    19 Spanish_Cataluna @ 19.663004
    20 Austrian @ 19.730627

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% French +50% West_Norwegian @ 3.092952


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Galicia +25% West_Norwegian @ 2.467657


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++
    1 Orcadian + Spanish_Extremadura + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.307101
    2 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.344636
    3 Norwegian + Orcadian + Spanish_Extremadura + West_Norwegian @ 2.345541
    4 Norwegian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Norwegian @ 2.347382
    5 Orcadian + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.355771
    6 Danish + Orcadian + Spanish_Galicia + West_Norwegian @ 2.411748
    7 Norwegian + Orcadian + Portuguese + West_Norwegian @ 2.414193
    8 Orcadian + Portuguese + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.441495
    9 Portuguese + Southwest_English + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.453897
    10 Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Galicia + West_Norwegian @ 2.467657
    11 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Portuguese @ 2.497826
    12 Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.504226
    13 Southwest_English + Spanish_Extremadura + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.505867
    14 Portuguese + Southeast_English + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.532845
    15 Danish + Orcadian + Portuguese + West_Norwegian @ 2.541293
    16 Orcadian + Orcadian + Portuguese + West_Norwegian @ 2.553932
    17 French + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Norwegian @ 2.565491
    18 Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.575815
    19 Southwest_English + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.576258
    20 Danish + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.578795

    Dodecad K12b 4-Ancestors Oracle


    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 5.124682
    2 French_Dodecad @ 5.632924
    3 French_HGDP @ 6.173071
    4 Dutch_Dodecad @ 6.479178
    5 Kent_1000Genomes @ 6.507801
    6 CEU30_1000Genomes @ 7.137910
    7 English_Dodecad @ 7.241131
    8 Cornwall_1000Genomes @ 8.370136
    9 British_Isles_Dodecad @ 8.507340
    10 British_Dodecad @ 8.957924
    11 Irish_Dodecad @ 10.423571
    12 Argyll_1000Genomes @ 10.430121
    13 German_Dodecad @ 10.605581
    14 Orcadian_HGDP @ 10.735415
    15 Orkney_1000Genomes @ 10.956199
    16 Norwegian_Dodecad @ 16.911858
    17 Hungarians_Behar @ 17.808084
    18 Swedish_Dodecad @ 19.142435
    19 Cataluna_1000Genomes @ 19.875412
    20 Galicia_1000Genomes @ 20.624249

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% French_HGDP +50% Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 2.165114


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% French_HGDP +25% German_Dodecad +25% Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 1.319557


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +
    1 British_Isles_Dodecad + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Norwegian_Dodecad + TSI30_Metspalu @ 1.135236
    2 British_Dodecad + British_Isles_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad + Tuscan_HGDP @ 1.163515
    3 British_Isles_Dodecad + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Norwegian_Dodecad + Tuscan_HGDP @ 1.165232
    4 Kent_1000Genomes + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + North_Italian_HGDP + Norwegian_Dodecad @ 1.177050
    5 British_Isles_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + North_Italian_HGDP + Orkney_1000Genomes @ 1.197652
    6 British_Dodecad + British_Isles_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad + TSI30_Metspalu @ 1.219552
    7 British_Isles_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Irish_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad @ 1.250587
    8 Cataluna_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar @ 1.251819
    9 British_Isles_Dodecad + Kent_1000Genomes + Norwegian_Dodecad + TSI30_Metspalu @ 1.257863
    10 CEU30_1000Genomes + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + North_Italian_HGDP + Norwegian_Dodecad @ 1.265559
    11 British_Isles_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad + Orcadian_HGDP @ 1.266044
    12 British_Isles_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + North_Italian_HGDP + Orcadian_HGDP @ 1.269664
    13 CEU30_1000Genomes + Cornwall_1000Genomes + Norwegian_Dodecad + TSI30_Metspalu @ 1.275064
    14 Cataluna_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Irish_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 1.276150
    15 British_Isles_Dodecad + Cataluna_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 1.276658
    16 British_Dodecad + CEU30_1000Genomes + Norwegian_Dodecad + TSI30_Metspalu @ 1.281585
    17 English_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + North_Italian_HGDP + Norwegian_Dodecad @ 1.283997
    18 Cataluna_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Kent_1000Genomes @ 1.287323
    19 British_Isles_Dodecad + Irish_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad + Tuscan_HGDP @ 1.288734
    20 Cataluna_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + English_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar @ 1.288757
    Last edited by Nordarya; 01-25-2020 at 05:55 PM.

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    I noticed how while MDLP got me high English and Irish, Scottish is at or near the bottom. I did not expect this at all.
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