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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalton View Post
    I see no epicanthus here, Barreldriver. I do however see the fleshy skin fold common amongst UP Europid types as a result of low orbital height.

    I'm talking about the fold of skin over your eyes/below your brow.
    So that's what it is, I thought it was epacanthus lol. There's not too many comparison pics around comparing a true epacanthic fold to a non-empacanthic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Fascinating. This is from Wikipedia, but it mentions no other source.
    That's why I wanted verification from the Scandinavians here.

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    I had an obvious outer epicanthic fold when I was a toddler.



    If you have not worked it out I am the one on the left my sister on the right.


    I am not Scandinavian (Croatian ancestry) but I found out recently that I have a distant cousin who is Finnish. I am not sure if Finns are classified as Scandinavian? As you can see from the picture I have a very East Baltid look about me. This epicanthic fold in me is not so prominent now that I am an adult.
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    If I recall correctly, almost all babies are born with Epicanthic folds. I was born with one, as was both of my parents. The biggest distinguishing feature between East Asians and other races is the lack of a brow ridge, high cheek bones(which actually cause the eyes to slant in a different angle), and sloping foreheads(non-relative to the discussion). Otherwise, any epicanthic fold would be quite unnoticeable. Having said all of that, you do not have an Epicanthic fold. This is what an epicanthic fold looks like.




    Edit: I just noticed what you were talking about. That is just caused by extra skin on your nose. Nothing else.
    Last edited by Stefan; 11-18-2009 at 04:06 AM.

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    Here are some types of eye folds




    I have something between the medium and the external one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan View Post
    If I recall correctly, almost all babies are born with Epicanthic folds. I was born with one, as was both of my parents. The biggest distinguishing feature between East Asians and other races is the lack of a brow ridge, high cheek bones(which actually cause the eyes to slant in a different angle), and sloping foreheads(non-relative to the discussion). Otherwise, any epicanthic fold would be quite unnoticeable. Having said all of that, you do not have an Epicanthic fold. This is what an epicanthic fold looks like.




    Edit: I just noticed what you were talking about. That is just caused by extra skin on your nose. Nothing else.
    These are epicanthic folds in Asians . Europeans would be different.

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    Scandinavians never have full epicanthic folds, it's just adaption to the cold. You can especially notice it among Finns, who have lived in Northern Europe for the longest period, they are also the least mixed European ethnicity(Finns are a genetic isolate) and anthropologically they're probably the closest to the original Northern European population.(As they are the original Northern Europeans)

    This thread reminds me of this post:

    Quote Originally Posted by ikki
    Theres something called finneyes. It resembles to a degree epicantic folds, but has a few detail differences. In return way over 90% has that...
    I am yet to ever see full epicantic folds here.


    One of the main differences being is that the red dot right next to the nose (inside eye) is visible. Whesreas for epicantic folds its not. Which was also the criteria used by the SS.

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    After comparing pictures of my own eyes to pictures of other Europeans' eyes, I have also come to the conclusion that I have either remnants of epicanthic folds or something resembling inner epicanthic folds. They are similar to Barreldriver's but maybe not quite as pronounced.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Svarogstan View Post
    These are epicanthic folds in Asians . Europeans would be different.
    I don't agree with that idea of there being two different kinds. You either have an Epicanthic fold or you don't. If it is something else then it is something else, not Epicanthus. Also, the picture was meant to show how it was different from the full asian and the half asian. As for the discussion of inner and outer folds, most asian's have both, but they aren't limited to having both. Europeans may develop "fat" or "skin" around their eyes that allow a semblance of an epicanthic fold, but it isn't the same thing, and it definitely doesn't have the same effect. Now Epicanthic folds could be different based on admixture, but that is just that, admixture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ikki
    Theres something called finneyes. It resembles to a degree epicantic folds, but has a few detail differences. In return way over 90% has that..
    Never heard of anything like that. Any examples?

    The only folds I can see regularly are outer ones like Barreldriver's.

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