What if Yugoslavia still existed?

[wvwvw]

Well, thank goodness for the U.S. then, because Albanians in Kosovo shouldn't be ruled by Yugoslavs.

A Yugoslavia that comprised of Bosnia+Croatia+Serbia+Montenegro wouldn't be a bad thing, but Kosovo+FYROM+Slovenia shouldn't be a part of it. They're distinctly different peoples.

Υου don't know what you are talking about alfieb. Until 1989 Kosovo Albanians enjoyed a high degree of autonomy within Yugoslavia.

" Beginning in 1961, the proportion of Serbs in the province fell. During the decades 1961–1971 and 1971–1981 the proportion fell at the same rate of about 5 percent per decade.

Why did the proportion of Serbs decline in Kosovo? Numerous reasons for this decrease have been cited. Two of the most prevalent are: (1) the birthrate of the Albanian community of Kosovo, 35 per 1,000; and (2) the migration of the Serbs from the region. There was a numerical decrease of Serbs as well as a proportional decrease between 1971 and 1981. Controversies arose over the increase in Albanian birthrates and the cultural norms ascribed to these increases; there was also controversy concerning the reasons for the Serb exodus from Kosovo. We will first turn our attention to the Albanian community’s birthrates and consider the reasons for Serbian migration in another section below.

In 1979, Kosovo had the highest birthrate in Yugoslavia and in Europe, 26.1 per 100 people, compared to 8.6 for the national Yugoslav average.(8) During the 1980s, the discourse in the media in Serbia concerning the birthrates among Albanian women took on racial overtones. As Julie Mertus and others have noted, the study of higher Albanian birthrates has often been presented as a conscious decision on the part of Albanians to reproduce rapidly in order to change the demographic picture of Kosovo. In this regard, Albanian women are portrayed as baby factories. In fact, the difference can be ascribed to patterns of rural and urban communities, cultural and societal norms and expectations. It must be noted that Albanians are a larger percentage of the rural population in Kosovo. Mertus points out that urban Albanian women and other urban women in Yugoslavia had nearly identical birthrates.(9)"

[alfieb]

Υου don't know what you are talking about alfieb. Until 1989 Kosovo Albanians enjoyed a high degree of autonomy within Yugoslavia.

What is your point?

Sicily has autonomy from Italy. Greenland has autonomy from Denmark.

Greenlandic people are not Danes. Sicilians are not Italian. KOSOVAR ALBANIANS ARE NOT SOUTH SLAVS. Majority-Albanian regions should not be part of a Slavic country. Autonomy was not enough. Kosovo should either be its own republic or part of the Republic of Albania.

[el22]

I'm just curious. What did USA to start the destruction of yougoslavia?

[Albion]

What is your point?

Sicily has autonomy from Italy. Greenland has autonomy from Denmark.

Greenlandic people are not Danes. Sicilians are not Italian. KOSOVAR ALBANIANS ARE NOT SOUTH SLAVS. Majority-Albanian regions should not be part of a Slavic country. Autonomy was not enough. Kosovo should either be its own republic or part of the Republic of Albania.

Kosovo was a province, thus had a degree of autonomy.

[wvwvw]

What is your point?

Sicily has autonomy from Italy. Greenland has autonomy from Denmark.

Greenlandic people are not Danes. Sicilians are not Italian. KOSOVAR ALBANIANS ARE NOT SOUTH SLAVS. Majority-Albanian regions should not be part of a Slavic country. Autonomy was not enough. Kosovo should either be its own republic or part of the Republic of Albania.

They weren't always the majority, they can thank their sky high birth rates for that. They employ the exact same tactic now in "Macedonia"

[alfieb]

They weren't always the majority, they can thank their sky high birth rates for that. They employ the exact same tactic now in "Macedonia"

Yes, it was majority-Serb 500 years ago.

And Southern Italy was majority-Greek 1,000 years ago.

But in Yugoslavia, Kosovo was an Albanian region.

[Gospodine]

Well, thank goodness for the U.S. then, because Albanians in Kosovo shouldn't be ruled by Yugoslavs.

The US did not intervene in the Former Yugoslavia because of the plight of the Albanians (nor Bosnians). That's the usual smokescreen ignorant outside observers fall for.

The US intervened because Yugoslavia and its successor-state Serbia had outlived their usefulness as Cold War-era buffer states and it was readily apparent that Yugoslavia was the one socialist country that would not overthrow its own government after the fall of the wall.

The logical move was to bait the 3 main constituent groups into self-destruction by installing and supporting extremist/right-wing nationalist leaders in Croatia, Bosnia and Serbia (spending close to $77.2 million funding opposition nationalist elements) who would play upon historical and cultural grievances amongst the three states to entice them into war.

The 1991 Foreign Operations Appropriations Law 101-513 was the document that signed Yugoslavia's death warrant.

For the umpteenth time, quit talking out of your ass on this issue.

Some of the wars, because with or without the U.S., Milosevic was a mentalcase with the goal of "Serbia Strong!!!!111" at the expense of everyone else.

Don't you have some remote, Sicilian village to analyse and find pictures of the inhabitants on Facebook?

[alfieb]

Don't you have some remote, Sicilian village to analyse and find pictures of the inhabitants on Facebook?

That's Sikeliot. I haven't posted a single photo from Facebook since I joined here.

[morski]

Serboslavia was a fake state anyway. Cold War era tool.

[Gospodine]

Yes, it was majority-Serb 500 years ago.

Try prior to WW2 (during which I might add the Albanian puppet state of Fascist Italy eliminated somewhere in the region of 200,000 to 400,000 Serbs from Kosovo).
Some reading for you:http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post1054922