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[Archduke]

So then are we to conclude that today's Macedonians are actually Serbs? Or rather, pure descendants of Serbs?

That's the wet dream of Novi Pazar.

[Óttar]

This thread isn't about Balkan geography.

[Óttar]

* - By having descended from the legendary Ossetian King Odin and his followers who were known among the ancient Teutons as the Aesir (singular: Aas), what is an obvious corruption of the word As, or the ancient Ossetian self-designation. The description of the location of Asaland or Asaheim found in the Norse sagas corresponds with the actual location of Ossetia (Alania); the Ossets were a dark-haired swarthy Iranian people who at that time lived on the northern slopes of the Caucasus and the steppes located north of it, along the Sea of Azov. It must be added here that the alleged blond Alans mentioned by one Roman source were actually Germanic slaves in Osset service, since the Ossets are known to have extensively employed foreign slaves as cannon fodder troops in their armies. Another piece of pseudo-evidence used to support the false claim that the ancient Alans were blond is the argument that the Alan tribe of the Ruxs-Alan (Rus-Alans or Rus-Ossets), or Ruxs-As in Ossetic (Roxolani, Roxalani, or Rosomoni of the antique sources), who are mentioned, among other sources, in the early medieval Alanic Tale of Iry Dada and Mstislav, was named so because its members had fair hair; in Ossetic the word ruxs means "radiance" or "light", but in reality this designation has nothing to do with hair color. According to G. Vernadski, Ruxs-Alan means "Radiant Alans". Therefore, it is not surprising that an Alan tribe would refer to itself as "radiant" since the sun emits radiance, and it was this very celestial body that featured very prominently in the religion of the ancient Iranians, hence the origin of the name "Radiant Alans". Furthermore, in the above-mentioned Tale of Iry Dada and Mstislav, which describes a Russian-Alan conflict in the early 1000's, the Alans often describe their Russian opponents as having blond or red hair, whereas, they never describe themselves in a likewise manner.

The Ossets of Scandinavia conquered the natives and were recognized as "gods" by their Norse subjects. After some time the Aesir split into two groups: the southern, now known as the Dan, the name derived from the ancient Osset word for "water" (the name of the river Don in southern Russia is of same origin) and would thus mean "Waterers" or "People by the Water", established itself on the coast of present-day southern Sweden and later went on to create Denmark; the other group, located to the north and whose name derived from the word "gods" (because that is what, at least initially, the Ossets were treated as in the Nordic countries, thence the name) eventually left Scandinavia and embarked on an attempt to return to Ossetia (thence the Goths' journey in the direction of the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov). The connection between Odin and the Caucasus area has been recently pointed-out by the late Thor Heyerdahl; prior to him, the only other person to have made this connection, more precisely between ancient Scandinavia and Ossetia, that I'm aware of, was the emigre Osset scholar Dzambulat Dzanty. Unfortunetly, lacking the famous name and "appropriate" origin of his Norwegian counterpart, D. Dzanty has been blatantly ignored for the last several decades.

Parts of this sound like crackpot theories and unfounded speculation typical of older scholarship using Biblical chronology and popular folklore.

Like how Irish monks wrote that the daughter of Pharaoh Nectanebo I was the mother of the Scottish race and other such bunk. King Odin? Please. Don't make Norse gods into historical figures.

[Midori]

True, but that doesn't makes you Serbs or pure descendants of Serbs.

You are what you think you are...

[forsaken]

You are what you think you are...

So present day Macedonians are Serbs because 'Macedonia is a nation of Serbomans'?

[Midori]

So present day Macedonians are Serbs because 'Macedonia is a nation of Serbomans'?

Only those who consider themselves Serbs.

[Crn Volk]

Only those who consider themselves Serbs.

That's about 30,000 people in Macedonia.

[Novi Pazar]

Armani, ofcourse they were Serbs and pure Serbs. Why would pure BuLgari name their male children Srbin, have serbian tradition like the slava, play the kolo, gusle, sing poems about serbian kings/heros and folkore. Have serbian toponyms floating around, have Serbian monastries and much more.

Yes there are 30,000 Vardar Macedonians who outwardly say they are Serbs, l'm sure in time they too will be macedonianised, what the heck, l don't care, l know they will still look up to us as inspiration and feel brotherly with us

[forsaken]

Armani, ofcourse they were Serbs and pure Serbs. Why would pure BuLgari name their male children Srbin, have serbian tradition like the slava, play the kolo, gusle, sing poems about serbian kings/heros and folkore. Have serbian toponyms floating around, have Serbian monastries and much more.

Yes there are 30,000 Vardar Macedonians who outwardly say they are Serbs, l'm sure in time they too will be macedonianised, what the heck, l don't care, l know they will still look up to us as inspiration and feel brotherly with us

Ok so Macedonians are Serbs. Are Western Bulgarians Serbs too?

[morski]

Ok so Macedonians are Serbs. Are Western Bulgarians Serbs too?

Of course they are! Basaically all Bulgarians are Serbs in denial.

The Torlak is an ardent Serb janissary.