View Poll Results: Are Modern Greeks direct descendants of Ancient Greeks?

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    I'm divided so I put "No". Some Greeks are true ancient Greek descendants but since ancient Greece there have been many invasions and immigration. I can't say all modern Greeks are descendants of ancient Greeks because that isn't fair.

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    From Dienekes:


    Angel noted that from the earliest times to the present “racial continuity in Greece is striking.”

    Buxton who had earlier studied Greek skeletal material and measured modern Greeks, finds that the modern Greeks “possess physical characteristics not differing essentially from those of the former [ancient Greeks].”

    The most extensive study of modern Greeks has been carried by the Greek anthropologist Aris N. Poulianos [10,11]. Poulianos’ study included the collection and study of more than seventy anthropometric measurements from a large sample of thousands of Greeks from different parts of the country. His main conclusions are that both Greeks and their neighboring populations are basically a mixture of Aegeans (a Mediterranean type local to the area) and Epirotics (Dinarics(e)) and are descended from the ancient inhabitants of the lands in which they live.

    http://dienekes.110mb.com/articles/hellenes/
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    You judge another nation by your customs....

    The fact that we are one of the few nations on earth that we considered mixing as lowlife practice for the last 2000 years means nothing to you....

    The fact that those that you called "mixed" Greeks have the same face and you cant tell them apart from isolated Greek populations (Cretans, Spartans, South Italians) or from populations that had totally different kind of conquerors (Ionian islands) also mean nothing to you...

    Is like telling me you have a a piece of yellow colored isolated somewhere so you know that this is yellow for sure (Spartans), then someone brings you another piece of yellow but tell you...you know, this was once yellow (Macedonians, Thessalians etc) but i had it in the same storage with blue (Slavs,Turks) so i dont think is pure yellow anymore, i think is green (mixed).. then you take of your isolated piece and you see that they look the same... so how on earth was the other mixed? Theories are theories.. and obvious facts are that facts....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivo Arandur View Post
    I find questions of this kind ridiculous...how can a modern nation of the 21st century be a direct descendant of a people that lived 3,000 years ago? This doesn't go just for the Greeks but for most other nations and people on Earth, as well. The Australian Aborigines can claim to be direct descendants of the people that lived there 4-5,000 years ago because the continent was so isolated...there are some other places (mostly islands) like that - where people have lived isolated for hundreds and thousands of years...everybody else though is a mix - some more, others less...this is especially true for the Greeks - the Balkans have been a crossroad of 3 continents since ancient times - so many people of different ethnicity have past through here that I don't think anybody has an exact count - the Balkans are the exact opposite of Australia - we (cos I also live on the Balkans) are one of the most unisolated places in the world...so yeah ancient Hellenes had an important part in the ethnogenesis of the modern Greek nation but the same ancient Hellenic genes probably run in the veins of most people of the southern Balkans - and they are mixed with hundreds of other genes/ethnic traits....tbh I find this melting pot of countless ethnicities called "Balkans" pretty cool and dislike the Nazi-inspired dreams of "pure nations" that some people obviously have...
    well in the case of Spain i can say that we are the same that at least 2000 years ago (celtiberians rests), too i read that the hominids found in Iberia keep genetical identity that modern Spanairds but this last i can't confirm it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivo Arandur View Post
    I find questions of this kind ridiculous...how can a modern nation of the 21st century be a direct descendant of a people that lived 3,000 years ago? This doesn't go just for the Greeks but for most other nations and people on Earth, as well. The Australian Aborigines can claim to be direct descendants of the people that lived there 4-5,000 years ago because the continent was so isolated...there are some other places (mostly islands) like that - where people have lived isolated for hundreds and thousands of years...everybody else though is a mix - some more, others less...this is especially true for the Greeks - the Balkans have been a crossroad of 3 continents since ancient times - so many people of different ethnicity have past through here that I don't think anybody has an exact count - the Balkans are the exact opposite of Australia - we (cos I also live on the Balkans) are one of the most unisolated places in the world...so yeah ancient Hellenes had an important part in the ethnogenesis of the modern Greek nation but the same ancient Hellenic genes probably run in the veins of most people of the southern Balkans - and they are mixed with hundreds of other genes/ethnic traits....tbh I find this melting pot of countless ethnicities called "Balkans" pretty cool and dislike the Nazi-inspired dreams of "pure nations" that some people obviously have...
    Even with the Aborigines of Australia now you will find it very hard to find a pure-blood Aborigine. And this is just after 200+ years of European settlement....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandelion View Post
    The poll is not correct.

    You should chose between :

    Yes - I am Greek
    Yes - I am not Greek
    No - I am Albanian,Fyromian,Turk or Bulgarian
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    what's wrong you don't like democratic voting? not very greek of you....

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    Of course not, all the ancient greeks vanished into thin air without producing any offspring...

    must have been all those goats
    Cattle die, kinsmen die,
    the self must also die;
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    For the one who is able to achieve it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandelion View Post
    I already know which ones are going to vote no.
    you see because the ancient greeks were blond

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    Quote Originally Posted by ikki View Post
    you see because the ancient greeks were blond
    In your dreams. LOL

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    They are mostly descended from Hellenized PIE Greeks and minor IE Greeks>which is reasonable since they were probably a ruling class and a minority back in ancient times.

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