Is Manifest Destiny best solution for Americans of European descendent?

[Sultan Suleiman]

I have been thinking about this for a long time, I mean Europe is flooded with immigrants but most of them don't have the citizenship in their respective host nations so when we get a sane center/right Sarkoziesq leader who can put in some laws to deport criminals or migrants which can't start paying taxes/get of welfare in a reasonable period of time they get ousted from their host nation (there is a law like this in works in UK if I recall), but illegal aliens in USA are just few more years from all out amnesty.

The Whites represent under 80% (15-30 million illegals not included) of American population and bulk of them are the baby boomers which are now entering their early 50s, while Latinos and Blacks represent a smaller %, most of their population is extremely young and more likely to give birth more than 2,3 kids.

And not just that, even during my five weeks stay in US I've noticed so many cameras, police patrols, National Guardsmen riding up and down the highway in their Humvees and weird APCs, and I don't want to go into the treatment I got from Catholic priest dropouts at the airport (when I was flying home), so I don't think that the Federal government has the best interests of it's people in mind.

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So my question is why do self-styled American patriots keep insisting on keeping the US as a single political entity?

Isn't it simpler that the Northwest and Texas which haven't completely been overrun by immigrants secede (and are economically feasible) and make them ethnic footholds of crakaz, because reclaiming the entirety of US is NOT an option.

[The Lawspeaker]

I am not sure whether I, as a non-American, should have views on this issue, Bosnian. Sorry

[Sultan Suleiman]

I am not sure whether I, as a non-American, should have views on this issue, Bosnian. Sorry

Still appreciate it

[poiuytrewq0987]

I am not sure whether I, as a non-American, should have views on this issue, Bosnian. Sorry

What's wrong with sharing your perspective? I actually think it's worse in Europe where the police openly brandish miltiary rifles. When I was in London (at Gatwick airport) back in 2010 I was shocked when I saw two police patrolling by the entrance with assault rifles. The police here only patrol with handguns, not assault rifles! Only at serious events, like the recent mass-shootings, do you see the police brandish assault rifles but during not your everyday patrols...

Let's not get me started on the CCTV prison in London! Cameras are everywhere and ever-peering there. I think in certain places in the US like NYC it's also just as bad but because it's bad here... doesn't mean it's not bad back in Europe. There was also a recent article on the new cameras that have a face recognition system... I think that is scary but don't be sure that such technology won't make its way back to Europe. I'm sure the Londoner G-men are already salivating over the application of this technology in Britain.

@Vrhbosnian, don't be shocked with the military... it's a normal thing because they DO have places to get to. The American military is one of the world's largest military with 3 million enlisted. Not even comparable to Bosnia's military, lol. But at least the military aren't allowed to carry weapons off-base unlike some European countries where the military can go anywhere with weapons on them.

About Manifest Destiny... it's not going anywhere the 50 states are tied together too strongly for any kind of break up to happen. There's even consideration for Puerto Rico to become America's 51st state right now. I think P.R. will vote on a referendum later this year in Nov. not sure but if they do then it'll be up to the Congress to approve.

[Stefan]

The problem is that our politicians and more importantly, our media controlled by Jews, want us to die a slow death. They're trying to weave their way past our strong Constitution to first disable our rights, socialize America to increase the population of non-whites, and then slowly - but surely, decline the nation, and hence the country.

We see this with their push for gun control, or free-speech impediment, which the common citizen have over our government. We see this on the television of children, or in the anti-racism sentiments of commercials, the news, etc. We see this in our government's support of Israel over our own people. Americans just can't see it though, because we're being manipulated. The Jews are master puppets using one party for one scheme and the other party for another, making it seem like Americans have actual control.

Such things are labeled as conspiracy theories, but there is one thing I've noticed about the extremists on all ends. They believe it. The black panthers believe the Jews control the media just as much as the KKK. They believe we send our Israeli support because of manipulation, rather than the opinion of the people. It's just the common person who does not believe such things, and I think that is a clear sign of brainwashing us through the media.

We are in Pax Americana, with a Bread and Circuses complacency. We all know how that ended for Rome, and we'll most likely see the same end for the United States. It is then when we'll fragment and hopefully my home - Pennsylvania, is intact at that point. That is my only hope at this point.

[arcticwolf]

And how do you suppose to convince let's say the Southerners to give up their beloved South, where they are still at least 75% of the population overall and move out? Not gonna happen. Same goes for other regions.

[The Lawspeaker]

What's wrong with sharing your perspective? I actually think it's worse in Europe where the police openly brandish miltiary rifles. When I was in London (at Gatwick airport) back in 2010 I was shocked when I saw two police patrolling by the entrance with assault rifles. The police here only patrol with handguns, not assault rifles! Only at serious events, like the recent mass-shootings, do you see the police brandish assault rifles but during not your everyday patrols...

I have only once seen it here on Schiphol Airport. Usually the police just has a pistol and a baton or they are sometimes even unarmed. So don't claim that it's like that all over Europe because then you're talking rubbish.

[Sultan Suleiman]

What's wrong with sharing your perspective? I actually think it's worse in Europe where the police openly brandish miltiary rifles. When I was in London (at Gatwick airport) back in 2010 I was shocked when I saw two police patrolling by the entrance with assault rifles. The police here only patrol with handguns, not assault rifles! Only at serious events, like the recent mass-shootings, do you see the police brandish assault rifles but during not your everyday patrols...

They don't have assault rifles they have SMGs, just like any other airport security.

@Vrhbosnian, don't be shocked with the military... it's a normal thing because they DO have places to get to. The American military is one of the world's largest military with 3 million enlisted. Not even comparable to Bosnia's military, lol. But at least the military aren't allowed to carry weapons off-base unlike some European countries where the military can go anywhere with weapons on them.

Buddy seeing a massive armored column passing by on a gray rain drenched day just doesn't give the impression of land of the Free

But you are right, 3 million enlisted vs. 20k troops aren't even comparable.

About Manifest Destiny... it's not going anywhere the 50 states are tied together too strongly for any kind of break up to happen. There's even consideration for Puerto Rico to become America's 51st state right now. I think P.R. will vote on a referendum later this year in Nov. not sure but if they do then it'll be up to the Congress to approve.

We thought the same for Yugoslavia bro.

[Schneider]

When the US military travels in the US they are Unarmed except maybe a couple of people to guard weapons shipments.

If the US divides many will leave the Far North regions due to the cold and lack of fuel/electricity that would exists during the breakup. West of the Rocky Mountains would be strongly influenced by Asian economies. The East and coastal South by European and South American economies. The middle of the country, in between the mountains would need to Secure a shipping route through the river as it would end up being a strong agricultural nation/state. The far North may end up with independent communities of less sociable types, like me.

Maybe I should write a novel about this??? This could be fun. Or I could just wait and write it as it happens.

[Osprey]

You can only secede if a large majority of the people want to.
Brainwashing doesn't help.
But I think you're right.
The US should be divided on the basis of idelogies.
Pro MultiCults should be granted their own states.