Will Syria's Kurds benefit from the crisis?

[Loki]

Will Syria's Kurds benefit from the crisis?



In any assessment of the potential winners and losers from the political chaos in Syria, the country's Kurdish minority could be among the winners.

The Kurds make up a little over 10% of the population. Long marginalised by the Alawite-dominated government, they are largely concentrated in north-eastern Syria, up towards the Turkish border.

Aaron David Miller, a distinguished scholar at the Woodrow Wilson Center in Washington DC, believes that the Kurds could be one of the main beneficiaries of the demise of the regime of President Bashar al-Assad.

"Syria is coming apart, and there's not much chance it will be reassembled with the kind of centralised authority we saw under the Assads."

For the Syrian Kurds, whom he describes as "part of the largest single ethnic grouping in the region that lacks a state", there is "an opportunity to create more autonomy and respect for Kurdish rights".

"They have the motivation, opportunity, and their Kurdish allies in Iraq and Turkey to encourage them. But what will hold them back is Turkey's determination to prevent a mini-statelet in Syria along with the Kurds own internal divisions," he says.

[Annihilus]

Kids don't look Kurdish to me.

[Onur]

Kurds are Pentagon`s no.1 proxy group in the region. It`s quite expected from them to support kurds by giving "human rights" issues as a pretext.

If human rights would really be an issue, then why USA doesn't support the human rights of Shiite majority in some Wahhabi states like Bahrain?

[Loki]

Kids don't look Kurdish to me.

Our local kebab shop workers don't look anything like them either.

[alanr]

Onur I have never seen anyone that is supposedly "Anti-globalist nationalism, Anti-fascist patriotism" as you claim, yet so biased and holds so many reservations for a people as a group, not even as individuals.

You chose to ignore all the suffering of the Kurdish population in Syria simply because you are afraid of how it will affect Turkey. The fact will remain that the regime in Syria has practiced fascist policies against the Kurds and has indeed abused their human rights.

I have not once come across an individual outside of the Turkish bubble that makes so many claims, yet backs non of it up. You claim that Kurds are a "Proxy" group for the US, yet it is evident that the Kurdish groups in Syria did not take side with either the opposition or the regime. Infact, the Kurds are the only group in Syria that are attempting to secure their own future. The proxy group and the people that work for the US as you like to put it are the firstly the Turks and the SNC. Yes, you Turks have under US instructions engineered the Syrian opposition group. You Turks were used by the US and Europe as a "proxy" group against the Russians (by your own standards). You will never understand politics because you look at it from an emotional point of view and will try to discredit anything Kurds do by attempting to link it to an outside power. Off course your bias media has an effect on you and I suppose the overwhelming majority of the human race are sheep that will follow anything the media tells them and consequently will believe any conspiracy theory that helps them sleep at night by still feeling superior.

Don't attempt to response to me without any non bias evidence that would suggest the Kurds in Syria are "proxy" groups of the US.

[Onur]

What i wrote is the basic truth.

You cannot compare Kurds with the Turkish state policies. We are a 1000 year old legitimate authority here but you kurds are just a minority group in Syria, Iraq, Iran and Turkey. You never had a state of your own and your pseudo-entity in northern Iraq is NOT a state either (as of today). As we all know, Pentagon created your kurdish entity in northern Iraq and they probably wanna create 2nd one in Syria nowadays. I suppose 3rd one in Iran and 4th one in Turkey in the future, we will see about that.

This is all happening because of Pentagon`s policies for the region, nothing else. Otherwise you have no power nor enough intellectual background to create something of your own, let alone a kurdish state. Are you going to deny this?

[Quorra]

Onur I have never seen anyone that is supposedly "Anti-globalist nationalism, Anti-fascist patriotism" as you claim, yet so biased and holds so many reservations for a people as a group, not even as individuals.

Onur's against nationalism when the nation isn't his. I.e. he is not only a nationalist, but a wanna be imperialist.

[Partizan]

@Alan,wait before commenting.If the USA will support a Kurdish state in Syria like she has done in Iraq,your thesis will become invalid.And it's more than possible.

Onur's against nationalism when the nation isn't his. I.e. he is not only a nationalist, but a wanna be imperialist.

He doesn't have a problem with anyone who doesn't have problems with Turks,simple.

[Quorra]

He doesn't have a problem with anyone who doesn't have problems with Turks,simple.

Would he have no problem if his country was to be settled by other peoples en masse?

Are you parroting our leftist propaganda against us?

[alanr]

What i wrote is the basic truth.

By who's account? where is your evidence?

You cannot compare Kurds with the Turkish state policies. We are a 1000 year old legitimate authority here but you kurds are just a minority group in Syria, Iraq, Iran and Turkey.

You are not a 1000 year old legitimate authority whatever that even means. You are what the current Iraqi regime is to the previous one, and what the next Syrian regime will be. The ottomans were an Islamic empire with Turkish roots, they were defeated by the West and instead a pro-Western government under ataturk was born. Since then, Turkey has been a base for American and European armies and to this day hosts military bases and equipment to protect Western interest. The modern Turkey gained some influence and power as a result of being used by the West against the Russians. Stop with the inferiority complex, come back to earth and face the facts.

You never had a state of your own and your pseudo-entity in northern Iraq is NOT a state either (as of today). As we all know, Pentagon created your kurdish entity in northern Iraq and they probably wanna create 2nd one in Syria nowadays. I suppose 3rd one in Iran and 4th one in Turkey in the future, we will see about that.

Oh dear god. Pentagon as you call it didn't create anything. The same treatment that we received was given to the whole of Iraq, infact the no fly zone was awarded to the Shia in the South too, yet, they didn't know what to do with it because they had no oranised political movements as we had. Infact the current Iraqi PM spent many years in Kurdistan under Kurdish protection and if it wasn't for that protection he would have been dead by now.

One look at modern Iraq will show similar situations. Since 2003 Turkey attempted to deny Kurdistan and block any attempts for it to grow in power. Turkey tried to strengthen the Turkmen in Iraq but failed miserably, in 2007 Turkey then moved to the Sunni Arabs in Iraq and created the Iraqia list in an attempt to curb Kurdish power in Iraq. Turkey united the Sunni Arabs and Turkmens but yet again, we Kurds came out on top and after many years of failed attempts Turkey had no choice but accept Kurdistan. It has nothing to do with the US. Kurdish unity in Iraq and Arab fractions was the key to our success.

This is all happening because of Pentagon`s policies for the region, nothing else. Otherwise you have no power nor enough intellectual background to create something of your own, let alone a kurdish state. Are you going to deny this?

Again you display your sheep mentality. How many of your "leaders" are of Kurdish background? Isn't your current finance minister Kurdish? how many Kurds in Erdogens party? Isn't the CHP leader supposedly of Kurdish Zaza origin? now, if they are able to run Turkish affairs to are more than able to run Kurdish affairs.

The current political elite in Iraqi Kurdistan is made up off people that are more than able to run the state and are indeed running it with great success. The Kurdish energy minister Dr. Hewrami is single handily winning an energy war against the entire Iraqi energy ministry. The majority of the Kurdish ministries are run by Kurds that have returned from the west. A classic example is the Kurdish higher education minister Professor Dlawer Ala'Aldeen a professor of Clinical Microbiology and Head of the Molecular Bacteriology and Immunology Group (Faculty of Medicine) at University of Nottingham (Nottingham, UK).

Not to mention that the Iraqi president, foreign minister, chief of armed forces, chief of the air force, chief of the special forces and several other ministries are Kurdish and are fully capable of practicing their position whether in Baghdad or Erbil.

As for Syria, the US has already declared their position and they are against Kurds autonomy. The Kurdish groups don't serve anyone but themselves unlike the SNC who are a Western puppet group and the Syrian regime that serve the west. The Kurds may form alliances to achieve what they want.

You are just a pathetic man hiding behind fake "peace lover" identity. Typically it takes just 30 minutes of conversation with any self proclaimed
"liberal" Turk to bring out their true colours and still you ask yourselves why Kurds don't want to live with you when the supposedly anti-Nationalists openly suggest that Kurds are not "intellectual enough" funnily enough you have demonstrated your sheep mentality over and over.