THE DACIAN MYTH

[dralos]

dardanians were mix of celts,illyrians and thracians

[Cavaros]

dardanians were mix of celts,illyrians and thracians

Probably.

[morski]

No. A 'Dacian' identity probably did develop. Any population living together in a certain geographic area for a number of centuries will develop a common identity, especially when they are at war against a common enemy (in this case Rome). What we see is a gradual merging of elements of the Thracian, Celtic and Scythian cultures who lived in this area into a 'Dacian' identity.
Compare the example of the Celtic Scordisci in Thrace during the same period who are refered to by the Romans as 'Thracians' because they had settled in Thrace, just as Rome (perhaps logically) referred to all barbarians who lived in the area of Dacia as 'Dacians'. However, geographic situation does not indicate ethnic origin.

With research into the Thracian language we have a domino-effect. The myth of a 'Pure Thracian Thrace' created by Thracologists since the 1970's has led to the flawed presumption that everyone who lived in that region was a 'Thracian'. This in turn has meant that the reconstruction of the ancient Thracian language has been based on a pool of linguistic material which has included many non-Thracian elements (for example Celtic names being treated as Thracian), thus leading to completely warped conclusions.

http://balkancelts.wordpress.com/201...mes-in-thrace/

So both the Thracians and the Dacians were something like Mixo-Barbarians?

[Cavaros]

So both the Thracians and the Dacians were something like Mixo-Barbarians?

Not quite. The Thracians were the Thracians (who after the 3rd c. BC mixed with the newly arrived Celts, creating a Thraco-Celtic culture in most areas).

Dacia and Dacia were geographical terms, and thus all the peoples (Thracians, Celts, Scythians) who lived in Dacia were 'Dacians. However, there is no evidence for a seperate 'Dacian' race.

[morski]

Not quite. The Thracians were the Thracians (who after the 3rd c. BC mixed with the newly arrived Celts, creating a Thraco-Celtic culture in most areas).

Dacia and Dacia were geographical terms, and thus all the peoples (Thracians, Celts, Scythians) who lived in Dacia were 'Dacians. However, there is no evidence for a seperate 'Dacian' race.

I see.

[Berga]

I believe Romanian originated in modern Romania/Bulgaria/Serbia while Albanian originated in the central Balkans . But there were also movements into Albania-Montenegro and the opposite. And some Romanians and Aromanians might of come over to Albanians and some Albanians went over there.

[Berga]

Actually I think Romanian and Aromanian originated where also Albanian came from in the central balkans

[Berga]

The Dardani were partly Illyrian and partly Daco-Thracian. That's where most likely the Daco-Thracian in Albanian comes from.

[Berga]

Should be E-V13 there and J-L283

[dviz]

Nonsensical thread based on a nonsensical article.

Celts were gone from Dacia by 1 AD. However, celtic objects are still found from that period, because parts of the culture were absorbed by the locals. Some Celtic tribes were still migrating in vicinity.