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    Quote Originally Posted by Tannis View Post
    Macedonians are Slavified Greeks.
    It's the other way around. Most Northern Greeks are Hellenized Macedonians.

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    Who ever voted for Bulgarians is wrong, even though it is historically, genetically culturally and linguistically right. The majority of today's Macedonians simply just love Serbs and strongly dislike Bulgarians, calling them Tatars and Gypsies. I think the strong hatred of Bulgarians by Macedonians is completely wrong considering the undeniable closeness between the two nations.

    morski put it very well in the temporary forum with these questions towards another member:

    How come that Macedonians initiated and participated equally with other Bulgarians in the Bulgarian Natinoal Revival, the codification of standard Bulgarian and the Church Struggle against the Konstantinople PAtriarchate which culminated in the establishment of the Exarchate?

    Why did Macedonians vote in the plebiscit to be included in the diocese of the Exarchate?

    Why did Macedonians in abundant numbers partake in the Revolutionary movement in Eastern Bulgaria, in the Bulgarian Legions in Belgrad, in the Volunteer Corps in the Russian Army in the Russo-Turkish war of independance?

    Why was the Revolutionary movement in Macedonia consturcted using the blueprint of Vail Levski's Internal REvolutionary Organsation?

    Why was IMRO also called Secret MAcedono-Adrianopolitan REvolutionary Committees, Bulgarian Macedono-Adrianopolitan Revolutionary Committees, Internal Macedono-Adrianopolitan Revolutionary Organisation and why were Macedonians fighting alongside Thracians in the Adrianopole Revolutionary district in the Ilinden-Preobrazhenie Uprising in 1903?

    Why did the komiti wear Bulgarian military paraphernalia - Coat of Arms of the Principality on their hat for example?

    Why was the Bulgarian tricolour frequently used in the revolutionary flags in 1903?

    Why Bulgarians from the Principality are so abundant in both the Supreme Macedonian Committee and IMRO?

    Why after the establishment of the Principality the MAcedonian emigration found itself mostly in Bulgaria?

    Why does the old Macedonian diaspora in the New World stick so stubbornly to the label "Macedono-Bulgarian"?

    Why did virtually all Macedonian intelectual and revolutionary leaders use standard Bulgarian?

    Why was the Bulgarian standard language so popular with the people of MAcedonia with the exception of few marginal and often poorly educated peasants or Serbian educated figures and its decline and the favorization of dialect forms occured only after the Serbian annexation of Vardar MAcedonia(and even then it was more of a counteract to Serbianization than linguistic separatism,at least in the beginning)?

    Why were the activities of IMRO in Pirin tolerated and supported by the Bulgarian authorities?

    Why were there so many MAcedonians in key positions in the Bulgarian state, i.e. officers in the Army(including generals and other top officers), politicians (Prime ministers, ministers, diplomats, members of parliament), teachers, lawyers, doctors, etc.?

    Why did MAcedonians enlist en masse in the Bulgarian Army in all conflicts?

    How come Todor Alexandrov and Alexander Protogerov were Bulgarians and yet they died for Independent Macedonia?

    Is it possible that during the NAtional Revival period the overwhelming majority of hte Slavs in MAcedonia self-identified as Bulgarians and felt that they are the same people with the Bulgarians from other geographical regions, albeit with a strong regional identity - Macedonian Bulgarians?

    Is it possible that the goal of Autonomous Macedonia was adopted only because of the widespread international objetcion to a complete and whole Bulgaria and even this autonomous Macedonia failed because of the fear of the Balkan neighbours that it will soon join Bulgaria like EAstern Rumelia did in 1885?
    In reality, we are related more to Bulgarians, but to Serbs in fairytale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    Execution of revolutionist Kiril Gligorov by Serbs in 1925.

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    Executed with a bullet instead of hanging. He should have been thankful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    Who ever voted for Bulgarians is wrong, even though it is historically, genetically culturally and linguistically right. The majority of today's Macedonians simply just love Serbs and strongly dislike Bulgarians, calling them Tatars and Gypsies. I think the strong hatred of Bulgarians by Macedonians is completely wrong considering the undeniable closeness between the two nations.
    I voted for Bulgarians because this year i met so many Macedonians which are ready to die for Bulgaria (just like i'm ready to die for Macedonia). Not brainwashed people like Sokol and Pigeon.

    That's the reason why i think that the future of Macedonia is to be part of Bulgaria again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Capelli View Post
    It's the other way around. Most Northern Greeks are Hellenized Bulgarians.
    Fixed fratello.

    Quote Originally Posted by Armani View Post
    That's the reason why i think that the future of Macedonia is to be part of Bulgaria again.
    I don't think we'll be officially united, it'll be more like hard friendship, something like Greece and Cyprus have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feuerfrei View Post
    I don't think we'll be officially united, it'll be more like hard friendship, something like Greece and Cyprus have.
    Such fake country can't exist imo.

    It will be Eastern Rumelia of the 21 century. That's only my opinion of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minesweeper View Post
    Executed with a bullet instead of hanging. He should have been thankful.
    Because murder is something to be thankful for

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    Quote Originally Posted by iNird View Post
    Although child molestation cases are not as prevalent in Orthodoxism compared to Catholicism......religious leaders are all the same shit. They prey on the weak minded (especially kids.)
    Orthodox priests are obligated to marry before they get ordained and are 100% hetero. If there are any homos in the church one should look for them in hte monasteries where the monks serve God in celibacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medvjed View Post
    Because murder is something to be thankful for
    If you want to play revolutionary games be ready to face the consequences if you get caught. Poor ol' Kiril knew what's the punishment in that case, that wasn't a fucking liberal society we have today.

    He's lucky for not ending up hanging on the gallows, bullet is at least a quick death.

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