about the "genocide" of Estonians

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Literacy started to spread in Russia (Belarus included) in the midlde of the 20th century... While the Estonians have been literate since the 17th century.

Something as simple as 2+2 still leaves you with too many options.

The denial of services attack is used by pranks. What could possibly the Russian secret services have achieved by DOSing the websites of your government organisations? Breaking in stealing sensitive information would be a better option for a resourceful state organisation.

You have developed an unhealthy phobia, pal.

Here is an article on BBC a year later after the DOS attack: news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7208511.stm

Estonia fines man for 'cyber war'


A 20-year-old ethnic Russian man is the first person to be convicted for taking part in a "cyber war" against Estonia.
Dmitri Galushkevich was fined 17,500 kroons (£830) for an attack which blocked the website of the Reform Party of Prime Minister Andrus Ansip.The assault, between 25 April and 4 May 2007, was one of a series by hackers on Estonian institutions and businesses.At the time, Estonia accused the Russian government of orchestrating the attacks. Moscow denied any involvement.Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told the BBC in May 2007 that the allegations were "completely untrue".

Minority attacks
The attacks took place against a backdrop of riots by ethnic Russian Estonians prompted by the removal of a Soviet war memorial from the centre of Tallinn. Pirate message which appeared on Estonian Reform Party's website

The website of Estonia's ruling party was hacked During the unrest, one person was killed and more than 150 injured.

Moving the so-called Bronze Soldier was seen as an affront to the memory of Russian soldiers who died during World War II.Prosecutors said Mr Galushkevich, a student, had claimed the attack was an act of protest against Mr Ansip, who became a hate figure for Estonia's Russian minority.Ethnic Russians make up about a quarter of Estonia's population of 1.3 million.Other websites that were crippled by the denial-of-service attacks, which knock websites offline by swamping servers with requests, included those of the state government, political parties and leading newspapers.Some sites also redirected users to images of Soviet soldiers and quotations from Martin Luther King about resisting "evil".
Most of the hackers were believed to be based in Russia - the Estonian government said at the time that Kremlin computers were used to carry out a number of the attacks.

PS Galushkevich sounds very much like Belarusian surname. He was our boy!

[Äike]

Something as simple as 2+2 still leaves you with too many options.

The denial of services attack is used by pranks. What could possibly the Russian secret services have achieved by DOSing the websites of your government organisations? Breaking in stealing sensitive information would be a better option for a resourceful state organisation.

You have developed an unhealthy phobia, pal.

Here is an article on BBC a year later after the DOS attack: news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7208511.stm



PS Galushkevich sounds very much like Belarusian surname. He was our boy!

Estonians are one of the most innovative and experienced people in IT, thus the reason why NATO built its cyber-defense centre of excellence into Tallinn. Russia couldn't do much more than DDOSing and they still failed.

[Pure ja]

Many ethnicities were harshly treated during Soviet Era. Estonians are overreacting the most.

Gorjatšie estonskie parni overreacting?
I think it is you who is overreacting.

Screaming and shouting will not reduce the Russian population in Estonia forcing them to speak Estonian willing to integrate into Estonian society. In fact, it may have an opposite effect.

Estonian russians have to accept that Estonia is a national state with one official language - estonian. The sooner they realize that, the better for all. Estonia's language requirements are actually quite laxed, so the more some local russians scream and shout against language regulations, the more probably will those language regulations raised on par with other western countries.

Also the willingness of young estonians to learn russian language is proportionately correlated with the willingness of Estonian russians to learn estonian language.

In a modern age a country cannot remain in isolation from other countries in the same geographical region.

Estonia and estonians by themselves have never been in isolation.

Russia and Russians are the neighbours of Estonians as they have been for many centuries. Do Estonians consider a possibility to reconcile their differences in the future?

That depends on the words and actions of Kremlin.
Estonia is open to pragmatic relations.

Reconciliation does not appear to be on the agenda of the Estonian government which bring me to the next point. It seems that the Estonian government has been used by the mighty of this world to ensure Russia does not have any political influence on the country which is also the case with some other former republics.

Russia DOES have a lot of political influence within other former SSRs. Even in Estonia. It is in the interests of all former SSRs to not let that Russian political influence to dominate over local native interests.

Western countries and our NATO and EU allies have actually checked and held back Estonia's verbal reactions against Russia's actions. Time and again our NATO and EU allies have had to later admit that our assessment of Russia's development had been right and their's had been wrong. Our NATO and EU allies can silence Estonia's voice, but they can't change the collective attitude of estonians - not even by using Estonia's own leading politicians.

The unfriendly policies of the Estonian government further contributed to an unease between Russian and Estonian population.

It would be difficult for any country to act friendly, when the 100 times bigger country behind the border is openly threatening with a government change. Estonia tried to act friendly in 1939 and was eventually occupied and annexed and colonised.

During cold war era Finland adopted a neutral position realising the ramifications for its country should a conflict between west and east eventuate. So why not learning from Finland and be at least neutral?

Because Kremlin tolerates only one Finland, and even that occasionally.

And neutrality is just a buzzword. Compared to Finland, Estonia has rather small military. Estonia even spends relatively less than Russia on military budget - Estonia 2%, Russia 3%.

I was somewhat sympathetic with Estonians but after reading the comments… Emotions, hysteria and hate.

I am still sympathetic with true belarusians, but you unfortunately behave like a Kremlin propaganda warrior.

[Pure ja]

The denial of services attack is used by pranks. What could possibly the Russian secret services have achieved by DOSing the websites of your government organisations? Breaking in stealing sensitive information would be a better option for a resourceful state organisation.

They tried that too during the riots.
One of the targets were the Estonia's Citizenship and Migration Office and the Tax Office. They failed.

Here is an article on BBC a year later after the DOS attack: news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7208511.stm

The Russian Gorvernment is a very vague term. The Russia's power vertical is actually merged with Russia's criminal structures.

And PS. It was not just DDOS attacks. Those were just a cover (maskirovka, if you will) for smart attacks.

PS Galushkevich sounds very much like Belarusian surname. He was our boy!

So you admit it!