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    Btw I heard stories that above the door of turkish prison facilities there is a writing that says: ''From here on Allah doesnt exist''

    Is that tue?

    Oh,and stop the persecution of Kurds in Turkey!
    Give them freedom!
    Freedom for Kurdistan!

    Turkey to allow Kurdish language to be used in court

    (Reuters) - Kurdish militants appear to have achieved their aim of being able to speak in their own language in court after the Turkish government said it would soon submit a bill to parliament on the subject.

    Courts' refusal to allow defendants who speak Turkish to use Kurdish in their defence has been a source of controversy in ongoing court cases against hundreds of defendants accused of links to the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) militant group and resolving the issue has been one of several key Kurdish demands.

    Some 700 Kurdish inmates in dozens of prisons are refusing solid food to try to exert pressure on Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan's government to grant greater Kurdish minority rights and better conditions for a jailed militant leader.

    Turkey's main medical association has warned that some of the hunger strikers may die if they continue their protest.

    The government said its decision to change the law had nothing to do with the hunger strike.

    "A person will be able to defend themselves in court in the language in which they can best express themselves," Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arinc told reporters late on Monday after a cabinet meeting where the issue was discussed.

    "The prime minister has given the order to our justice minister to develop this and send it rapidly to parliament to become law," he said.

    Arinc said the ruling AK Party had pledged the reform in a booklet distributed at its congress in September, seeking to dispel the idea it was acting in response to the hunger strike.

    Erdogan's government has boosted Kurdish cultural and language rights since taking power a decade ago, but Kurdish politicians are seeking greater political reform, including steps towards autonomy for mainly Kurdish southeastern Turkey.

    The leader of the main pro-Kurdish party welcomed the move.

    "But we don't have another 56 days ahead us to sort this out. There are only a few days. These statements must be acted on," BDP leader Selahattin Demirtas told a party meeting.

    Fifty six is the number of days the militants have been on hunger strike for.

    "DON'T UPSET US"

    Arinc called on the inmates to end their protest.

    "Don't upset us and our nation," he said. "Please end these strikes in the knowledge that there is a democratic atmosphere in Turkey where your demands can be discussed."

    Erdogan has taken a hard line, describing the protest as blackmail and a "show". The head of the Turkish Medical Association has warned that such comments risked hardening the inmates' resolve.

    The protesters' main demand is for PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan, who is imprisoned on an island in the Marmara Sea south of Istanbul, to have access to his lawyers after 15 months of no contact. Most of the inmates are either convicted PKK members or accused of links to the outlawed group.

    A PKK statement said it believed the hunger strike could end if the protesters' "reasonable demands" were met.

    The protests follow a surge in violence between Turkey and the PKK, which took up arms in 1984 with the aim of carving out an independent Kurdish state. Turkish Kurds now number around 15 million, or around one fifth of the population.

    The PKK has staged some of its bloodiest attacks in more than a decade this year as tensions grow between Turkey and its neighbour Syria, which Ankara has accused of arming the PKK.

    More than 40,000 people have been killed in the conflict between the Turkish state and the PKK, designated a terrorist group by Ankara, the United States and the European Union.

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    Where did you hear that story ? some years ago there was a similar case, where a woman wanted to participate in a trial but was not allowed and the judge told her '' Your God and his rules do not pass here ''. Well, although being a harsh explanation, it's true since the judiciary should keep its secularity based on laws.

    As for the news, I agree that the people who are unable to speak Turkish properly should be allowed to speak in their native language, but the Turkish Republic is a nation-state with one national identity and language. Would you advocate the same thing for Turks in Bulgaria ? I doubt it. And you're being silly with your teenager rhetoric.

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    Its isn't used already ?
    So if someone doesn't speak Turkish, how he goes through trial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kemalisté View Post
    Where did you hear that story ? some years ago there was a similar case, where a woman wanted to participate in a trial but was not allowed and the judge told her '' Your God and his rules do not pass here ''. Well, although being a harsh explanation, it's true since the judiciary should keep its secularity based on laws.
    On several occasions,one of them was when my highschool teacher was telling us how to act while we were getting ready to go on a school trip to Istanbul.

    The prison story just got into conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandelion View Post
    Its isn't used already ?
    So if someone doesn't speak Turkish, how he goes through trial?
    Kurdish language is banned in parliament and you can only study kurdish 2 hours a weak. Leyla Zana, a Kurdish politician, got jailed for speaking kurdish in parliament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serhildan View Post
    Kurdish language is banned in parliament and you can only study kurdish 2 hours a weak. Leyla Zana, a Kurdish politician, got jailed for speaking kurdish in parliament.
    I am not talking about parliament, but in court. It isn't used in courts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugarash 1893 View Post
    Oh,and stop the persecution of Kurds in Turkey!
    Give them freedom!
    Freedom for Kurdistan!
    After you'll give Pirin to Macedonia and give Turks of Bulgaria their freedom, mmmmaaaaayyyybbbeee

    Quote Originally Posted by dandelion View Post
    Its isn't used already ?
    So if someone doesn't speak Turkish, how he goes through trial?
    Dear, only language in Turkey is Turkish, period. We are a Unitary state and we have our rules here. Only nation in Turkey is Turk, only language is Turkish.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yabgu View Post
    There is no ethnicity called "Anatolian", and no such thing as "Anatolian Greek genes" or "Armenoid genes".. It is a political rhetoric to cause identity erosion.. Eastern Huns are considered to be the ancestors of modern day Turks and they were a hybrid of Asiatic and Caucasian, but more dominantly Caucasian.. Hun was not an ethnicity itself, but a large tribal confederative structure.. That is why Turks already had a rich genetic pool before the full conquest of Anatolia region..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandelion View Post
    I am not talking about parliament, but in court. It isn't used in courts?
    Oh, no before it wasn't allowed. Luckily, it will be in a few weeks time. But since the Turkish election is coming soon, Erdogan wants kurdish votes and this is one of his methods to try and get them

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    This is ridiculous, everybody in Turkey speaks turkish. Only exception that can be made is for foreigners that do not speak Turkish.

    Fucking traitors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandelion View Post
    I am not talking about parliament, but in court. It isn't used in courts?
    As far as I know AKP had some attempts to do it but they failed. If it is case of a tourist or something like that, I guess a translator helps.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yabgu View Post
    There is no ethnicity called "Anatolian", and no such thing as "Anatolian Greek genes" or "Armenoid genes".. It is a political rhetoric to cause identity erosion.. Eastern Huns are considered to be the ancestors of modern day Turks and they were a hybrid of Asiatic and Caucasian, but more dominantly Caucasian.. Hun was not an ethnicity itself, but a large tribal confederative structure.. That is why Turks already had a rich genetic pool before the full conquest of Anatolia region..

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