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    I've seen this before. It's a useful heuristic and teaching tool for understanding the basics of sociosexual theory, but obviously it's a gross simplification of what goes in a woman's head, and there will always be exceptions to every rule. The more you try to distill human behavior into concrete, mathematical statements, the less accurate your model will be. I certainly like it, though. Recommended reading for any clueless, omega male.

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    Women need to be told what ladder you go on, not asked.

    Regardless of a woman's intellect, when it comes to guys she acts more like a single celled amoeba. Monkey see, monkey do is the most common thing of course. I have an extremely hot friend I hang around with a lot. If I show up somewhere with her, suddenly I am hard to resist, a very captivating fellow. Alone, I am a probable murderer who girls shrink back from.

    Mostly it's like Chris Rock put it. If you ask a girl to suck your balls, you are gonna have some dry balls. If you tell her to do it and apply gentle pressure (aka half nelson) you are gonna get your balls sucked.

    That's it for women. The instant assessment thing is bullshit, they are easily led to the proper conclusion. Just look at the genetic trainwrecks half the hot girls are dating, do you really think they are the better man? Hardly, but swarthoid peasant types toot their own horn all day long and eventually will manage to find girls gullible enough to believe it, while the superior intelligence men sit there wondering if megan likes him or not they have verbally assaulted 8 women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonhead View Post
    Women need to be told what ladder you go on, not asked.

    Regardless of a woman's intellect, when it comes to guys she acts more like a single celled amoeba. Monkey see, monkey do is the most common thing of course. I have an extremely hot friend I hang around with a lot. If I show up somewhere with her, suddenly I am hard to resist, a very captivating fellow. Alone, I am a probable murderer who girls shrink back from.

    Mostly it's like Chris Rock put it. If you ask a girl to suck your balls, you are gonna have some dry balls. If you tell her to do it and apply gentle pressure (aka half nelson) you are gonna get your balls sucked.

    That's it for women. The instant assessment thing is bullshit, they are easily led to the proper conclusion. Just look at the genetic trainwrecks half the hot girls are dating, do you really think they are the better man? Hardly, but swarthoid peasant types toot their own horn all day long and eventually will manage to find girls gullible enough to believe it, while the superior intelligence men sit there wondering if megan likes him or not they have verbally assaulted 8 women.


    There is a lot of truth to this but you have to remember that there are a lot of women in the world. Even a lot of pretty women in the world. Just because all the girls at a bar end up fucking and mating with low humans doesn't mean anything really. Why do you think they are at a bar in the first place? They aren't meant to have good trait kids thanks to their fate of being low IQ. Just means less future good trait people in world which makes it better for you and your kids in future

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    Meh.

    I notice I can only surround myself with people I actually like when it comes to friends. I wanted to say I don't have a two ladder system, but I do. It's more like 1) main ladder/everyone I like and 2) second ladder/wtf ru? I will not be friends with someone I do not like or find interesting.

    Usually, everyone starts on the main ladder. I immediately toss guys to the other ladder if they are only concerned with what's happening to them in the now, with no concept or consideration of the future. Stupid actions coupled with stupid words is definitely one way to become forgettable.

    The second thing that gets them tossed is the inability to be straightforward. I'm not a mind reader. Problems are best solved in a timely manner when both parties are willing to communicate and are committed to finding a solution instead of tearing the other person down.

    I believe a good man is one that always has control over self but has mercy for his loved ones.

    Brotherzone is a funny concept to me. This is where my Oppa love comes in. A man cannot be my Oppa unless I trust and value his opinions more than my own unquestioningly. Brotherzone to me means a brother-in-arms type of deal. Every day feels like another battle in a war. I'd prefer to be with someone that I can turn my back on and know I'd be okay with.

    I would say I feel like I'm too old to be playing games, but it's more like I'm just tired of games, subconsciously or not. I either like you or I don't, which means you either exist or you don't. There is no friend ladder and only a man of good character can be brotherzoned. The other type of brotherzone that is mainstream is disrespect towards brotherhood, or just family/ soul relations in general.

    Idk, society seems good at creating these weird trancelations with seemingly innocuous words. The coined term "brotherzone" is one such instance. They cause issues that shouldn't be issues and keep engaging superficial thinking and ways of life. :-/

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    This is only true for attractive women. Which I am not, so I have never experienced having male friends. Men want nothing to do with me. Sure, there are outliers. Men “hit me up” for sex, which I always decline (because I like to think I have some semblance of self respect, and casual sex also does not appeal to me)

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    Imagine sitting in your basement typing up the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post



    The first thing to notice here is that a woman has not one ,but two ladders. This is because in addition the normal ladder, a woman also has a friends ladder. The friends ladder is where a woman puts guys that she considers "just friends". More to the point where she puts guys who don't get to have sex with her.

    The problem arises because a woman never lets a guy know which ladder he is on. Obviously there is a huge difference, or gap between these two ladders. It is in this gap that kisses of death are delivered and intellectual whores are made. All a man can do is "go for it" and make a move on a girl; ask her out, try to kiss her, write her a love note or whatever. If he's on the good ladder fine. If he is on the friends ladder this is a case of ladder jumping. The man is trying to jump the gap from the friends ladder to the real ladder. The girl has two choices at this point: she can let him on the ladder and all is well, or, more likely, she can kick him in the head, and off the ladder. If you look you'll see that below the ladder is the Abyss(what was it Nietzsche said about a man being on a rope stretched over an Abyss?....well it's worse than he thought; there is no rope.) So the man falls into the Abyss. The Abyss isn't really as bad as it sounds. Mostly it's a period of self-loathing, embarrassment, and of course utter awkwardness with the girl in question if they are talking at all.
    I’m usually very clear about only wanting to be friends with a guy early on, they just choose to hear what they want to hear.

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    Many guys can start out as friends and then become partners. So the ladder isn't entirely accurate. There should probably be something merging the two ladders together at their halfway points.

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    I don't believe in this at all, so many of the couples I know in real life started off as friends and including my own ex gf. It depends though, there are some people who have no opposite gender friends, I suppose this ladder was designed by a guy like that.

    This is ladder makes more sense for hooking up, it doesn't really correlate to actual serious relationships.

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