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    Default How would the BBC be divided if Scotland became independent?

    The article at the Guardian is rather long-winded, so instead of pasting it; here's a link:

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    In my opinion it would be better for the UK and Scotland to agree a transition period for a number of things. Broadcasting could be included, with a gradual 5 year handover of BBC in Scotland to the Scottish government. This would allow it to function as a independent entity rather than the BBC just suddenly hacking off a limb and expecting it to thrive.
    RTE is probably the best model Scotland could hope for. It hasn't got the huge license fee-paying population of England and would be all the poorer for it.

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    The scots can have it.
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    I think it would be like the RTE but I don't know whether Scottish society is historically fragmented (along political and religious lines) like the Dutch society because then the Dutch public broadcasting system might be an option.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuan Belanda View Post
    I think it would be like the RTE but I don't know whether Scottish society is historically fragmented (along political and religious lines) like the Dutch society because then the Dutch public broadcasting system might be an option.
    Catholic West and Highlands, Presbyterian east and borders (related to Calvinism).
    Scotland must ignore these divides and focus on unity if it is to thrive. This includes having a broadcaster for the whole nation whilst meeting the needs of both groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    Catholic West and Highlands, Presbyterian east and borders (related to Calvinism).
    Scotland must ignore these divides and focus on unity if it is to thrive. This includes having a broadcaster for the whole nation whilst meeting the needs of both groups.
    I don't think so. In fact: what it could do is a broadcasting organisation for the Catholics, the Calvinists, the Presbyterians and the Socialists, Liberals etc like we have here. Enforcing unity (like the EU does) is stupid and bound to fail. The best option of sphere sovereignty.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuan Belanda View Post
    I don't think so. In fact: what it could do is a broadcasting organisation for the Catholics, the Calvinists, the Presbyterians and the Socialists, Liberals etc like we have here. Enforcing unity (like the EU does) is stupid and bound to fail. The best option of sphere sovereignty.
    Giving every special interest group a platform from which to preach will create too much division. How would you like it if the Indonesians were allowed separate broadcasting facilities from which to preach pro-immigration, pro-islam, anti-Dutch propaganda?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    Giving every special interest group a platform from which to preach will create too much division. How would you like it if the Indonesians were allowed separate broadcasting facilities from which to preach pro-immigration, pro-islam, anti-Dutch propaganda?
    We've had that system for ages and we even had a Muslim broadcasting group (which failed miserably.. much to the amusement of many Dutch btw) but the thing is: if you don't like it, don't watch. That's how things work here: Catholics didn't watch Protestant programs. Liberals didn't watch the Socialist VARA. Only since the last 30 years that has changed.

    It doesn't create division: it just created a very stable society and allowed society to get rid of the divisions over time. Not by enforcing change but by allowing people to choose for themselves.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    Catholic West and Highlands, Presbyterian east and borders (related to Calvinism).
    Scotland must ignore these divides and focus on unity if it is to thrive. This includes having a broadcaster for the whole nation whilst meeting the needs of both groups.
    The way we do the STV news. Is that it's divided into Northern Scotland, Glasgow & West Central, and Edinburgh & East Central.
    Borders gets English ITV instead.

    We get our local news. Quite like the setup, works for News & weather at least.

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    This is how it worked. It was a system known as pillarisation (Dutc: verzuiling). And it's remnants can still be seen today in many clubs, schools, the broadcasting services, the trade unions, the employers organisations etc.

    I think it would actually work miracles when employed in Northern Ireland too and believe me: traditionally divisions between protestants and Catholics very much mirrored those of Northern Ireland but this system allowed for the divisions to slowly evaporate over time as society progressed by not forcing people to hang out with each other all the time.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    The way we do the STV news. Is that it's divided into Northern Scotland, Glasgow & West Central, and Edinburgh & East Central.

    Borders gets English ITV instead.

    Quite like the setup, works for News & weather at least.
    Nobody watches regional news though (at least not in England). It is usually rather unimportant and boring (and depressing in NW England - all the news from declined Lancashire towns and their awful Muslim demographics - they're very over-represented).

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