Does some European Jewish music borrow from southern Italian style?

[Sikeliot]

I'm going to raise controversy here, but it has to be asked.

This Jewish song, in rhythm and instruments and even the tune, sounds so much like Sicilian music.

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Hava Nagila has a similar sound to some southern Italian folk music.

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Israeli song that sounds like Sicilian music, except its in Hebrew.

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Now some Sicilian music to compare.

Compare this to the first song I posted in the links of Jewish music.

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The rhythm of this song picks up later. It sounds like Bar Mitzvah music.

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And these songs sound similar too.

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[Sikeliot]

this is the first song I posted. The rhythm just is so familiar.

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[EagleAtHeart]

Maybe I don't have a musical ear, but each of those videos sounds exactly like Russian, Romanian, Polish, etc. folk music that I've heard at weddings or festivals.

Jews have infested all of those countries above, so its probably them just stealing it, as per usual.

[EagleAtHeart]

Article on Jewish folk music:

Israeli music is heavily influenced by its constituents, which include Jewish immigrants from more than 120 countries around the world, which have brought their own musical traditions, making Israel a global melting pot. The Israeli music is very versatile and combines elements of both western and eastern music.

From the earliest days of Zionist settlement, Jewish immigrants wrote popular folk music. At first, songs were based on borrowed melodies from German, Russian, or traditional Jewish folk music with new lyrics written in Hebrew.

[Sikeliot]

The last link I posted, with the Russian Jewish song "Tumbalalaika" is rhythmically very similar to songs in southern Italy like "Si Maritau Rosa". As are the instruments.

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It's also a coincidence where European Jews cluster genetically, which makes me think they're basically converted southern Italians. And the musical links come from that.

[Virtuous]

Maybe I don't have a musical ear, but each of those videos sounds exactly like Russian, Romanian, Polish, etc. folk music that I've heard at weddings or festivals.

Jews have infested all of those countries above, so its probably them just stealing it, as per usual.

I thought the same, it reminds me of the good ol' Soviet music with the mandolin.

[Sikeliot]

I thought the same, it reminds me of the good ol' Soviet music with the mandolin.

Southern Italians use the mandolin all the time, and the accordion. I'm surprised you wouldn't think it sounded similar, as I'd think Maltese music uses all of these instruments as well.

[EagleAtHeart]

The last link I posted, with the Russian Jewish song "Tumbalalaika" is rhythmically very similar to songs in southern Italy like "Si Maritau Rosa". As are the instruments.

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It's also a coincidence where European Jews cluster genetically, which makes me think they're basically converted southern Italians. And the musical links come from that.

Now you're just trolling.

That study linking Ashkenazi's to Mediterraneans (Bauchet) also stated that Ashkenazi Jews mostly clustered with Arabic North African populations when looking at the whole of Europe.

Many other genetic studies state they're Levantine.

So what can it be?

Also, who was the sample population? What regions? Southern Italy did take in lots of Jews after the Spanish Inquisition.

Either way, Jews are a unique race totally unrelated to ethnic Italians

[Virtuous]

Southern Italians use the mandolin all the time, and the accordion. I'm surprised you wouldn't think it sounded similar, as I'd think Maltese music uses all of these instruments as well.

And the accordion too, indeed.

Well, no, it can be a lil similar sometimes but we deviated a little from the style since we're disconnected from our cousins .

[Virtuous]

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