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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Delarge View Post
    It's the other way around. Portuguese is modified galician.
    But Galicians are Celtic aren't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Englisc View Post
    But Galicians are Celtic aren't they?
    As Celtic as everyone else. Celts in Europe:



    Galician is also a romance language, so i'm not sure what you meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Delarge View Post
    As Celtic as everyone else. Celts in Europe:



    Galician is also a romance language, so i'm not sure what you meant.
    Ofcourse Celts were around in ancient times. But Galicia is sometimes counted as one of the modern Celtic nations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Englisc View Post
    Ofcourse Celts were around in ancient times. But Galicia is sometimes counted as one of the modern Celtic nations.
    Well, that Celtic Nations thing is a modern concept anyway, part of the celtic revival. I don't know what qualifies one region to be a part of that, and who decides it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Delarge View Post
    Well, that Celtic Nations thing is a modern concept anyway, part of the celtic revival. I don't know what qualifies one region to be a part of that, and who decides it.
    It's decided by the survival of Celtic languages, however this has not occurred in Galicia so that region is sometimes not included within the modern Celtic nations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Englisc View Post
    It's decided by the survival of Celtic languages, however this has not occurred in Galicia so that region is sometimes not included within the modern Celtic nations.
    There are no celtic languages anywhere in Iberia anymore. What Galicia has is a large number of sites such has these:



    Their traditional music also sounds like what you would consider as "celtic". But that's it, their language is similar to other Iberian languages and it's a Romance language.

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    On the discussion of the Celts... most of western Europe, and a lot of central/southern Europe, has some degree of Celtic ancestral heritage. The survival or non-survival of Celtic languages is irrelevant, really. Ireland speaks English more than Gaelic, but they are genetically about as close to the ancient Celts as can be (albeit with the added Viking element).

    I personally view Frenchmen, Spaniards, Portuguese, etc. as Romanised Celts, since that's pretty much what they are in terms of ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belenus View Post
    On the discussion of the Celts... most of western Europe, and a lot of central/southern Europe, has some degree of Celtic ancestral heritage. The survival or non-survival of Celtic languages is irrelevant, really. Ireland speaks English more than Gaelic, but they are genetically about as close to the ancient Celts as can be (albeit with the added Viking element).

    I personally view Frenchmen, Spaniards, Portuguese, etc. as Romanised Celts, since that's pretty much what they are in terms of ancestry.
    Romance-speaking Irishmen, I see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belenus View Post
    On the discussion of the Celts... most of western Europe, and a lot of central/southern Europe, has some degree of Celtic ancestral heritage. The survival or non-survival of Celtic languages is irrelevant, really. Ireland speaks English more than Gaelic, but they are genetically about as close to the ancient Celts as can be (albeit with the added Viking element).

    I personally view Frenchmen, Spaniards, Portuguese, etc. as Romanised Celts, since that's pretty much what they are in terms of ancestry.
    I think that what happened was Celtization of local peoples around Europe instead of the people from the yellow part expanding and replacing the population everywhere:



    In that way i disagree that Irish people are as close to ancient Celts as you can get, since they are most likely Celticized britons, or local irish people.

    How this celtization occured is an interesting question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Delarge View Post
    I think that what happened was Celtization of local peoples around Europe instead of the people from the yellow part expanding and replacing the population everywhere:



    In that way i disagree that Irish people are as close to ancient Celts as you can get, since they are most likely Celticized britons, or local irish people.

    How this celtization occured is an interesting question.
    Alex you should to move parte of the post to another section, it is a interesting subject who shouldn't be treated here
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