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    EUtest vs Dodecad K7b&K12b for accuracy distance 2 and under.

    4-Ancestors Oracle for EUtest
    All results, distance of 2, and under

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1] 50% HU +50% LIT @ 1.246
    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1] 50% HU +25% EE +25% LIT @ 0.000
    2] 50% LIT +25% AT +25% HU @ 0.000
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1] AT + HU + LIT + LIT @ 0.000
    2] AT + HU + LIT + Northwest_Russian @ 0.000
    3] EE + HU + HU + LIT @ 0.000
    4] FR + LIT + Northwest_Russian + UA @ 0.000

    4-Ancestors Oracle for Dodecad K7b
    All results, distance of 2 and under

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1] 50% Lithuanians +25% Lithuanians +25% Tuscan @ 1.365
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1] Lithuanians + Lithuanians + Lithuanians + Tuscan @ 1.365

    4-Ancestors Oracle for Dodecad K12b
    All results, distance of 2 and under

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1] 50% Mixed_Germanic +50% Russian_B @ 1.818
    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1] 50% Mixed_Germanic +25% Russian_B +25% Ukranians @ 1.649
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1] Dutch + Mixed_Germanic
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    MDLP World-22 Admixture Proportions
    Using 1 population approximation:
    1]Polish_V @ 3.884
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1] 50% Polish_V +50% Ukrainian-Center @ 2.922
    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1] 50% North-East-European +25% German-South +25% Kosovar @ 2.400
    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1] North-East-European + Kosovar + Lithuanian_V + Ukrainian-Center @ 2.194
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    EUtest

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 NO @ 6.112
    2 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 6.262
    3 North_Swedish @ 7.362
    4 DK @ 7.589
    5 Orcadian @ 8.283
    6 Scottish @ 8.999
    7 IE @ 9.147
    8 NL @ 10.408
    9 Cornish @ 10.991
    10 English @ 11.028


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% North_Swedish +50% Scottish @ 4.016
    2 50% IE +50% North_Swedish @ 4.732
    3 50% North_Swedish +50% Orcadian @ 4.742
    4 50% Scottish +50% South_Finnish @ 5.090
    5 50% Scottish +50% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.495
    6 50% Cornish +50% North_Swedish @ 5.896
    7 50% NO +50% Scottish @ 5.911
    8 50% IE +50% South_Finnish @ 5.922
    9 50% NO +50% North_Swedish @ 5.959
    10 50% DK +50% North_Swedish @ 6.009


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Scottish +25% South_&_Central_Swedish +25% South_Finnish @ 3.371
    2 50% Scottish +25% North_Swedish +25% South_Finnish @ 3.524
    3 50% Scottish +25% NO +25% South_Finnish @ 3.660
    4 50% Scottish +25% EE +25% NO @ 3.793
    5 50% Scottish +25% DK +25% EE @ 3.867
    6 50% Scottish +25% DK +25% South_Finnish @ 3.974
    7 50% North_Swedish +25% Scottish +25% Scottish @ 4.016
    8 50% Scottish +25% North_Swedish +25% North_Swedish @ 4.016
    9 50% Scottish +25% EE +25% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.043
    10 50% Scottish +25% EE +25% North_Swedish @ 4.070


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_Finnish @ 3.371
    2 North_Swedish + Scottish + Scottish + South_Finnish @ 3.524
    3 NO + Scottish + Scottish + South_Finnish @ 3.660
    4 EE + NO + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.793
    5 DK + EE + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.867
    6 IE + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_Finnish @ 3.958
    7 DK + Scottish + Scottish + South_Finnish @ 3.974
    8 North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.016
    9 Orcadian + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_Finnish @ 4.030
    10 EE + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.043
    11 IE + North_Swedish + Scottish + South_Finnish @ 4.064
    12 EE + North_Swedish + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.070
    13 EE + IE + NO + Scottish @ 4.090
    14 North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.114
    15 IE + NO + Scottish + South_Finnish @ 4.122
    16 EE + Scottish + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.124
    17 East_Finnish + Scottish + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.149
    18 North_Swedish + Orcadian + Scottish + South_Finnish @ 4.162
    19 East_Finnish + NO + Scottish + Scottish @ 4.164
    20 NO + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Scottish @ 4.213

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    Eurogenes
    EUTest

    1: English @ 4.921
    2: DK + English @ 4.396
    3: 50% DK + English + English @ 4.396
    4: DK + DK + English + English @ 4.396

    JTest

    1: English @ 4.379
    2: DK + English @ 3.751
    3: 50% English + DK + English @ 3.620
    4: DK + English + English + English @3.620
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    HarappaWorld

    1: British @ 1.549
    2: 50% British +50% Orcadian @ 1.436
    3: 50% British + N-European + Orcadian @ 1.165
    4: British + British + N-European + Orcadian @ 1.165
    ---------------------------------------------------------

    Dodecad V3

    1: Irish @ 6.256
    2: Irish + Irish @ 6.256
    3: Irish + Irish + Irish @ 6.256
    4: Irish + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 6.256
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    Here's my family's results (EUtest). My Dad seems to be extremely English as usual :

    Here is mine (M130542):

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 West_&_Central_German @ 3.586
    2 NL @ 3.664
    3 English @ 4.961
    4 Cornish @ 6.803
    5 Orcadian @ 7.163
    6 DK @ 7.163
    7 IE @ 8.123
    8 NO @ 8.298
    9 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 8.669
    10 Scottish @ 9.758


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% NL +50% West_&_Central_German @ 3.492
    2 50% West_&_Central_German +50% West_&_Central_German @ 3.586
    3 50% NL +50% NL @ 3.664
    4 50% English +50% West_&_Central_German @ 3.667
    5 50% English +50% NL @ 4.101
    6 50% FR +50% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.237
    7 50% Cornish +50% West_&_Central_German @ 4.491
    8 50% Orcadian +50% West_&_Central_German @ 4.552
    9 50% FR +50% NO @ 4.610
    10 50% IE +50% West_&_Central_German @ 4.754


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% West_&_Central_German +25% NL +25% West_&_Central_German @ 3.348
    2 50% South_&_Central_Swedish +25% IE +25% North_Italian @ 3.405
    3 50% NL +25% NL +25% West_&_Central_German @ 3.462
    4 50% South_&_Central_Swedish +25% English +25% North_Italian @ 3.466
    5 50% West_&_Central_German +25% FR +25% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.481
    6 50% West_&_Central_German +25% English +25% West_&_Central_German @ 3.486
    7 50% South_&_Central_Swedish +25% North_Italian +25% Orcadian @ 3.489
    8 50% NL +25% West_&_Central_German +25% West_&_Central_German @ 3.492
    9 50% West_&_Central_German +25% NL +25% NL @ 3.492
    10 50% South_&_Central_Swedish +25% Scottish +25% Tuscan @ 3.496


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 NL + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German @ 3.348
    2 IE + North_Italian + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.405
    3 English + FR + South_&_Central_Swedish + West_&_Central_German @ 3.412
    4 English + NO + North_Italian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.422
    5 NO + North_Italian + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.454
    6 FR + NL + South_&_Central_Swedish + West_&_Central_German @ 3.459
    7 NL + NL + NL + West_&_Central_German @ 3.462
    8 English + North_Italian + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.466
    9 FR + South_&_Central_Swedish + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German @ 3.481
    10 English + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German @ 3.486
    11 North_Italian + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish +
    South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.489
    12 NL + NL + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German @ 3.492
    13 Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish + Tuscan @ 3.496
    14 NO + NO + North_Italian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.496
    15 Orcadian + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German @ 3.500
    16 NO + NO + NO + North_Italian @ 3.505
    17 English + FR + NO + West_&_Central_German @ 3.509
    18 FR + NL + NO + West_&_Central_German @ 3.523
    19 English + NL + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German @ 3.544
    20 Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish + Tuscan @ 3.548

    So basically various mixtures of Dutch, German, English, Swedish/NO and/or French, Italian. This makes sense with regards to the normal Oracle. It doesn't pick up on possible Georgian ancestry but it might do with my mother.

    Here is my Dad's (M131022):

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 English @ 2.730
    2 NL @ 4.304
    3 DK @ 5.194
    4 West_&_Central_German @ 5.981
    5 Cornish @ 6.508
    6 Orcadian @ 6.839
    7 NO @ 7.163
    8 IE @ 7.889
    9 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 8.047
    10 Scottish @ 9.101


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% English +50% English @ 2.730
    2 50% English +50% NL @ 3.179
    3 50% DK +50% English @ 3.333
    4 50% English +50% NO @ 3.822
    5 50% English +50% West_&_Central_German @ 3.865
    6 50% English +50% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.174
    7 50% DK +50% NL @ 4.197
    8 50% NL +50% NL @ 4.304
    9 50% Cornish +50% English @ 4.589
    10 50% DK +50% West_&_Central_German @ 4.592


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% English +25% English +25% English @ 2.730
    2 50% English +25% English +25% NL @ 2.755
    3 50% English +25% English +25% NO @ 2.801
    4 50% English +25% DK +25% English @ 2.825
    5 50% English +25% English +25% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.865
    6 50% English +25% DK +25% NL @ 3.073
    7 50% English +25% English +25% West_&_Central_German @ 3.099
    8 50% English +25% NL +25% NL @ 3.179
    9 50% NL +25% English +25% English @ 3.179
    10 50% English +25% NL +25% NO @ 3.251


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 English + English + English + English @ 2.730
    2 English + English + English + NL @ 2.755
    3 English + English + English + NO @ 2.801
    4 DK + English + English + English @ 2.825
    5 English + English + English + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.865
    6 DK + English + English + NL @ 3.073
    7 English + English + English + West_&_Central_German @ 3.099
    8 English + English + NL + NL @ 3.179
    9 English + English + NL + NO @ 3.251
    10 DK + English + English + West_&_Central_German @ 3.297
    11 English + English + NL + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.307
    12 DK + DK + English + English @ 3.333
    13 English + English + English + Orcadian @ 3.374
    14 Cornish + DK + English + English @ 3.463
    15 English + English + NO + West_&_Central_German @ 3.470
    16 Cornish + English + English + English @ 3.503
    17 English + English + NL + Orcadian @ 3.504
    18 English + English + NL + West_&_Central_German @ 3.515
    19 English + English + South_&_Central_Swedish + West_&_Central_German @ 3.534
    20 DK + English + NL + NL @ 3.550

    Apparently extremely English with a pull to Scandinavia, which agrees with the normal Oracle. The combinations of just English are kind of funny .

    Here is my mother (M132207):

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 West_&_Central_German @ 6.635
    2 NL @ 7.495
    3 English @ 9.279
    4 AT @ 9.550
    5 Cornish @ 10.081
    6 Orcadian @ 10.594
    7 IE @ 11.182
    8 DK @ 11.687
    9 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 12.102
    10 NO @ 12.134


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% AT +50% English @ 6.330
    2 50% AT +50% NL @ 6.487
    3 50% AT +50% IE @ 6.624
    4 50% West_&_Central_German +50% West_&_Central_German @ 6.635
    5 50% English +50% HU @ 6.690
    6 50% AT +50% Orcadian @ 6.699
    7 50% AT +50% West_&_Central_German @ 6.706
    8 50% AT +50% Cornish @ 6.969
    9 50% HU +50% IE @ 6.988
    10 50% NL +50% West_&_Central_German @ 7.063


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% NL +25% Orcadian +25% RO @ 5.932
    2 50% NL +25% IE +25% RO @ 5.947
    3 50% South_&_Central_Swedish +25% NL +25% North_Italian @ 5.948
    4 50% NL +25% English +25% RO @ 5.952
    5 50% English +25% HU +25% West_&_Central_German @ 5.958
    6 50% English +25% RO +25% West_&_Central_German @ 5.969
    7 50% South_&_Central_Swedish +25% North_Italian +25% West_&_Central_German @ 5.978
    8 50% West_&_Central_German +25% HU +25% IE @ 5.998
    9 50% English +25% IE +25% RO @ 5.998
    10 50% West_&_Central_German +25% North_Italian +25% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 6.020


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 English + HU + NL + West_&_Central_German @ 5.868
    2 English + IE + RO + West_&_Central_German @ 5.917
    3 NL + NL + Orcadian + RO @ 5.932
    4 IE + NL + NL + RO @ 5.947
    5 NL + North_Italian + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.948
    6 English + IE + NL + RO @ 5.949
    7 English + NL + NL + RO @ 5.952
    8 IE + NL + RO + West_&_Central_German @ 5.957
    9 English + English + HU + West_&_Central_German @ 5.958
    10 English + English + RO + West_&_Central_German @ 5.969
    11 North_Italian + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish + West_&_Central_German @ 5.978
    12 NL + Orcadian + RO + West_&_Central_German @ 5.980
    13 English + Orcadian + RO + West_&_Central_German @ 5.982
    14 English + NL + Orcadian + RO @ 5.996
    15 HU + IE + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German @ 5.998
    16 English + English + IE + RO @ 5.998
    17 North_Italian + South_&_Central_Swedish + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German @ 6.020
    18 English + HU + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German @ 6.024
    19 IE + RO + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German @ 6.030
    20 IE + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish + Tuscan @ 6.031

    Again this quite agrees with the oracle results, although it does pick up on an interesting point - The Romanian that keeps coming up could be something and might explain why she is higher for East European and West Asian values. Although it might be made more difficult by the fact she would only be about 1/16 West Asian at most (probably) if it was just that. Again the base a mix of Germanic and Celtic, which makes sense - She has more 'Celtic' ancestry than my Dad.

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    What does your dad score on Dodecad oracle, Jackson? Because I come out quite English, but then on Dodecad very Irish.

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    Here's my paternal and maternal phased data files. WHich i think are meant to 'summarise' paternal and maternal ancestry using all our kits?

    Paternal Phased Data File:

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 English @ 6.202
    2 DK @ 6.531
    3 NL @ 6.613
    4 NO @ 7.796
    5 West_&_Central_German @ 7.911
    6 Cornish @ 8.415
    7 Orcadian @ 8.441
    8 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 8.599
    9 IE @ 9.227
    10 Scottish @ 10.701


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% DK +50% English @ 5.939
    2 50% English +50% NO @ 5.983
    3 50% DK +50% NL @ 6.155
    4 50% English +50% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 6.192
    5 50% English +50% English @ 6.202
    6 50% English +50% NL @ 6.208
    7 50% NL +50% NO @ 6.355
    8 50% DK +50% West_&_Central_German @ 6.500
    9 50% DK +50% DK @ 6.531
    10 50% Cornish +50% NO @ 6.593


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% NO +25% NO +25% PT @ 5.352
    2 50% NO +25% PT +25% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.481
    3 50% NO +25% DK +25% PT @ 5.507
    4 50% NO +25% DK +25% FR @ 5.576
    5 50% South_&_Central_Swedish +25% DK +25% PT @ 5.585
    6 50% NO +25% ES +25% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.587
    7 50% South_&_Central_Swedish +25% NO +25% PT @ 5.604
    8 50% NO +25% English +25% FR @ 5.651
    9 50% NO +25% ES +25% NO @ 5.668
    10 50% DK +25% FR +25% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.676


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 NO + NO + NO + PT @ 5.352
    2 NO + NO + PT + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.481
    3 DK + NO + NO + PT @ 5.507
    4 DK + NO + PT + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.545
    5 DK + FR + NO + NO @ 5.576
    6 DK + PT + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.585
    7 ES + NO + NO + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.587
    8 NO + PT + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.604
    9 English + FR + NO + NO @ 5.651
    10 ES + NO + NO + NO @ 5.668
    11 DK + DK + FR + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.676
    12 English + NO + NO + PT @ 5.682
    13 DK + DK + FR + NO @ 5.700
    14 DK + DK + NO + PT @ 5.709
    15 DK + FR + NO + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.710
    16 English + FR + NO + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.723
    17 FR + NO + NO + NO @ 5.728
    18 English + NO + PT + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.743
    19 DK + DK + PT + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.753
    20 PT + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.754

    Paternal ancestry seems to come out as basically Danish with a pull to to the West or Norwegian with a pull to the south-west.

    Maternal Phased Data File:

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 West_&_Central_German @ 5.662
    2 NL @ 7.256
    3 AT @ 8.788
    4 English @ 8.948
    5 Cornish @ 9.605
    6 Orcadian @ 10.063
    7 IE @ 10.824
    8 DK @ 11.453
    9 Scottish @ 12.001
    10 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 12.176


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% AT +50% English @ 5.539
    2 50% AT +50% West_&_Central_German @ 5.590
    3 50% AT +50% Orcadian @ 5.646
    4 50% West_&_Central_German +50% West_&_Central_German @ 5.662
    5 50% AT +50% NL @ 5.691
    6 50% AT +50% IE @ 5.713
    7 50% AT +50% Cornish @ 6.074
    8 50% AT +50% Scottish @ 6.100
    9 50% Scottish +50% Serbian @ 6.111
    10 50% IE +50% Serbian @ 6.194


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% West_&_Central_German +25% IE +25% RO @ 4.589
    2 50% West_&_Central_German +25% RO +25% Scottish @ 4.619
    3 50% West_&_Central_German +25% Orcadian +25% RO @ 4.677
    4 50% NL +25% RO +25% Scottish @ 4.713
    5 50% Orcadian +25% RO +25% West_&_Central_German @ 4.787
    6 50% NL +25% Orcadian +25% RO @ 4.806
    7 50% West_&_Central_German +25% English +25% RO @ 4.850
    8 50% West_&_Central_German +25% IE +25% Serbian @ 4.869
    9 50% Orcadian +25% NL +25% RO @ 4.889
    10 50% IE +25% RO +25% West_&_Central_German @ 4.899


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 English + Orcadian + RO + West_&_Central_German @ 4.465
    2 English + IE + RO + West_&_Central_German @ 4.506
    3 IE + RO + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German @ 4.589
    4 RO + Scottish + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German @ 4.619
    5 English + RO + Scottish + West_&_Central_German @ 4.643
    6 NL + RO + Scottish + West_&_Central_German @ 4.660
    7 Orcadian + RO + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German @ 4.677
    8 NL + NL + RO + Scottish @ 4.713
    9 NL + Orcadian + RO + West_&_Central_German @ 4.722
    10 IE + NL + RO + West_&_Central_German @ 4.739
    11 Orcadian + Orcadian + RO + West_&_Central_German @ 4.787
    12 English + IE + NL + RO @ 4.805
    13 NL + NL + Orcadian + RO @ 4.806
    14 English + NL + RO + Scottish @ 4.836
    15 English + NL + Orcadian + RO @ 4.843
    16 English + RO + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German @ 4.850
    17 IE + Orcadian + RO + West_&_Central_German @ 4.865
    18 IE + Serbian + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German @ 4.869
    19 NL + Orcadian + Orcadian + RO @ 4.889
    20 IE + IE + RO + West_&_Central_German @ 4.899

    Again this seems to come out basically Celtic + Germanic + SE Europe, which i guess is a fair combination given the limitation of the smallest fragments being 25% (IN the 4-way split).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    What does your dad score on Dodecad oracle, Jackson? Because I come out quite English, but then on Dodecad very Irish.

    HarappaWorld for me, was my most accurate.
    I think he comes out as English/Kent, let me try it actually on the 4-way split. I use Dodecad less and less now but the K12b is very accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackson View Post
    I think he comes out as English/Kent, let me try it actually on the 4-way split. I use Dodecad less and less now but the K12b is very accurate.
    Using Dodecad V3 it seems to be a bit off but in the right area, although i think it was one of the 'calculator effect' ones,comes out as:

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 CEU @ 1.533
    2 Orcadian @ 3.103
    3 Orkney @ 3.551
    4 Argyll @ 3.893
    5 N._European @ 4.683
    6 German @ 7.712
    7 Mixed_Germanic @ 10.083
    8 French @ 10.495
    9 French @ 10.640
    10 Dutch @ 10.725


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% CEU +50% CEU @ 1.533
    2 50% CEU +50% Orcadian @ 2.111
    3 50% CEU +50% Orkney @ 2.327
    4 50% CEU +50% Argyll @ 2.558
    5 50% French +50% German @ 2.750
    6 50% CEU +50% N._European @ 3.050
    7 50% Orcadian +50% Orcadian @ 3.103
    8 50% French +50% German @ 3.210
    9 50% Orcadian +50% Orkney @ 3.324
    10 50% Orcadian +50% Argyll @ 3.386


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Orcadian +25% French +25% German @ 1.314
    2 50% Orcadian +25% French +25% German @ 1.364
    3 50% Argyll +25% French +25% German @ 1.422
    4 50% Orkney +25% French +25% German @ 1.475
    5 50% Orkney +25% French +25% German @ 1.489
    6 50% CEU +25% CEU +25% CEU @ 1.533
    7 50% Argyll +25% French +25% German @ 1.573
    8 50% CEU +25% French +25% German @ 1.649
    9 50% Argyll +25% CEU +25% French @ 1.653
    10 50% CEU +25% French +25% German @ 1.734


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 French + German + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 1.314
    2 French + German + Orcadian + Argyll @ 1.317
    3 French + German + Orcadian + Argyll @ 1.350
    4 CEU + French + German + Orcadian @ 1.351
    5 CEU + French + German + Orkney @ 1.354
    6 CEU + French + German + Argyll @ 1.360
    7 French + German + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 1.364
    8 French + German + Orkney + Argyll @ 1.373
    9 French + German + Orcadian + Orkney @ 1.377
    10 CEU + French + German + Argyll @ 1.398
    11 CEU + French + German + Orcadian @ 1.405
    12 French + German + Orcadian + Orkney @ 1.421
    13 CEU + French + German + Orkney @ 1.422
    14 French + German + Argyll + Argyll @ 1.422
    15 French + German + Orkney + Argyll @ 1.447
    16 French + German + Orkney + Orkney @ 1.475
    17 French + German + Orkney + Orkney @ 1.489
    18 CEU + CEU + CEU + CEU @ 1.533
    19 French + Hungarians + Irish + Orcadian @ 1.550
    20 French + Hungarians + Irish + Orcadian @ 1.551

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    Dodecad K12b

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Swedish @ 2.230
    2 Norwegian @ 5.035
    3 German @ 14.300
    4 Dutch @ 15.318
    5 Orkney @ 15.656
    6 British_Isles @ 16.374
    7 Argyll @ 16.631
    8 Orcadian @ 16.672
    9 CEU30 @ 16.869
    10 Mixed_Germanic @ 16.939


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Swedish +50% Swedish @ 2.230
    2 50% Norwegian +50% Swedish @ 3.327
    3 50% Norwegian +50% Norwegian @ 5.035
    4 50% Cornwall +50% FIN30 @ 5.144
    5 50% British +50% FIN30 @ 5.202
    6 50% FIN30 +50% Irish @ 5.333
    7 50% Cornwall +50% Finnish @ 5.480
    8 50% FIN30 +50% Orcadian @ 5.486
    9 50% British +50% Finnish @ 5.622
    10 50% FIN30 +50% Orkney @ 5.846


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Norwegian +25% Finnish +25% Orcadian @ 1.790
    2 50% Norwegian +25% Finnish +25% Orkney @ 1.796
    3 50% Norwegian +25% Finnish +25% Irish @ 1.834
    4 50% Norwegian +25% Argyll +25% Finnish @ 1.896
    5 50% Norwegian +25% FIN30 +25% Orkney @ 1.933
    6 50% Norwegian +25% FIN30 +25% Orcadian @ 1.996
    7 50% Norwegian +25% FIN30 +25% Irish @ 2.069
    8 50% Norwegian +25% Argyll +25% FIN30 @ 2.085
    9 50% Norwegian +25% British +25% Finnish @ 2.167
    10 50% Swedish +25% Swedish +25% Swedish @ 2.230


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Finnish + Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 1.790
    2 Finnish + Norwegian + Norwegian + Orkney @ 1.796
    3 Finnish + Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 1.834
    4 Argyll + Finnish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 1.896
    5 FIN30 + Norwegian + Norwegian + Orkney @ 1.933
    6 FIN30 + Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 1.996
    7 FIN30 + Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.069
    8 Argyll + FIN30 + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.085
    9 British + Finnish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.167
    10 FIN30 + Norwegian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 2.169
    11 Finnish + Irish + Norwegian + Swedish @ 2.183
    12 Finnish + Norwegian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 2.184
    13 FIN30 + Irish + Norwegian + Swedish @ 2.187
    14 FIN30 + Norwegian + Orkney + Swedish @ 2.217
    15 Swedish + Swedish + Swedish + Swedish @ 2.230
    16 British_Isles + Finnish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.276
    17 Cornwall + Finnish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.291
    18 Finnish + Norwegian + Orkney + Swedish @ 2.302
    19 Argyll + FIN30 + Norwegian + Swedish @ 2.353
    20 Argyll + Finnish + Norwegian + Swedish @ 2.362

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    Here is my Dad's K12b - It's definitely the most accurate of the Dodecad bunch. Although i think why the results differ between Eurogenes and Dodecad is that Eurogenes splits that big NW Euro cluster into East and West, so kind of takes north Europe into finer detail, but i guess there is a risk with doing that in that the two East/West groups are quite closely related, although he seems to have it under control.

    Anyway here is my Dad's K12b:

    1 Kent @ 1.692
    2 English @ 2.011
    3 CEU30 @ 2.159
    4 British @ 3.044
    5 Cornwall @ 3.152
    6 British_Isles @ 3.381
    7 Dutch @ 3.972
    8 Irish @ 4.163
    9 Argyll @ 4.341
    10 Orcadian @ 4.459


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Cornwall +50% Dutch @ 1.661
    2 50% Kent +50% Kent @ 1.692
    3 50% British +50% Mixed_Germanic @ 1.699
    4 50% British +50% Dutch @ 1.768
    5 50% English +50% Kent @ 1.785
    6 50% CEU30 +50% Kent @ 1.876
    7 50% Cornwall +50% Mixed_Germanic @ 1.881
    8 50% British +50% Kent @ 1.966
    9 50% English +50% English @ 2.011
    10 50% Cornwall +50% Kent @ 2.070


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Argyll +25% Cataluna +25% Swedish @ 0.898
    2 50% Orcadian +25% Dutch +25% French @ 0.923
    3 50% Orkney +25% Dutch +25% French @ 0.961
    4 50% Orkney +25% Dutch +25% French @ 0.965
    5 50% Orcadian +25% French +25% Mixed_Germanic @ 0.988
    6 50% Orkney +25% French +25% Mixed_Germanic @ 0.988
    7 50% Argyll +25% Dutch +25% French @ 1.005
    8 50% Irish +25% Dutch +25% French @ 1.018
    9 50% Orcadian +25% Dutch +25% French @ 1.049
    10 50% Argyll +25% Dutch +25% French @ 1.085


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Argyll + Dutch + French + Orcadian @ 0.804
    2 Argyll + Dutch + French + Orkney @ 0.804
    3 Dutch + French + Orcadian + Orkney @ 0.804
    4 Argyll + Dutch + French + Irish @ 0.872
    5 Dutch + French + Irish + Orkney @ 0.893
    6 Argyll + Argyll + Cataluna + Swedish @ 0.898
    7 Dutch + French + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 0.923
    8 Argyll + Dutch + French + Orcadian @ 0.949
    9 Argyll + Dutch + French + Orkney @ 0.949
    10 Dutch + French + Orkney + Orkney @ 0.961
    11 Dutch + French + Orkney + Orkney @ 0.965
    12 Dutch + French + Irish + Orcadian @ 0.968
    13 Dutch + French + Orcadian + Orkney @ 0.969
    14 French + Mixed_Germanic + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 0.988
    15 French + Mixed_Germanic + Orcadian + Orkney @ 0.988
    16 French + Mixed_Germanic + Orkney + Orkney @ 0.988
    17 Argyll + Argyll + Dutch + French @ 1.005
    18 French + Irish + Mixed_Germanic + Orkney @ 1.016
    19 Dutch + French + Irish + Irish @ 1.018
    20 Dutch + French + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 1.049

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