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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    UKIP support an English Parliament or the English democrats.
    Yep, UKIP support a parliament for England. The UK Independence Party won a lot of votes in the last European Elections in Britain this year.
    English Democrats support a parliament for England too.

    The Tories-Lib-Dems and Labour don't seem to support equal rights though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    You want the truth? It would end the UK. Labour and Conservatives don't want that. Though North England did get the vote for an Assembly like what Wales has, it was rejected by voters. 77.9% voted No.
    Do you think we'd be better off as a union but without the Queen (she's German descent anyway) and with a decent government in place for everyone and being free from the EU control over Britain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Rose View Post
    Do you think we'd be better off as a union but without the Queen (she's German descent anyway) and with a decent government in place for everyone and being free from the EU control over Britain?
    Imo people know what goes on in their own neighbourhood best. More local control, federalism & more countries (that have a history of being one) the better. THE EU is another layer of rulers. From Luxembourg & Estonia to Dorset, Wester Ross to Glamorgan, they are too different. The UK even makes more sense.

    btw if Scotland votes no. I hope of an extremely federalist UK between England, Wales & Scotland. Separate mostly but with a United Border control, currency and defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Rose View Post
    Do you think we'd be better off as a union but without the Queen (she's German descent anyway) and with a decent government in place for everyone and being free from the EU control over Britain?
    Of* German descent. Your phraseology is really odd. In all your posts. I don't believe you're a native Briton.

    Monarchist forever here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Of* German descent. Your phraseology is really odd. In all your posts. I don't believe you're a native Briton.

    Monarchist forever here.
    I don't care what you believe and how much you try to discredit everything I say, I know my own relatives and where I was born and raised.

    I don't believe you're a native Briton because if you were you wouldn't support a foreign monarch on the throne.

    You wouldn't support a foreign religion either that has nothing to do with the ancient sacred Celtic sites in the West Country.

    We don't bother to say *of in informal speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Rose View Post
    I don't care what you believe and how much you try to discredit everything I say, I know my own relatives and where I was born and raised.

    I don't believe you're a native Briton because if you were you wouldn't support a foreign monarch on the throne.

    You wouldn't support a foreign religion either that has nothing to do with the ancient sacred Celtic sites in the West Country.
    Yeah ridiculous points aside I don't think you were born here.

    As a point of interest, around 80% of Britons support the Monarchy.

    What ancient Celtic sites in the West Country? Apart from Bath Springs, there aren't really many. Besides the Celts were invasive too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Yeah ridiculous points aside I don't think you were born here.

    As a point of interest, around 80% of Britons support the Monarchy.

    What ancient Celtic sites in the West Country? Apart from Bath Springs, there aren't really many. Besides the Celts were invasive too.
    I think you work for MI5 tbh and I should know where I was born, cheers! The ancient Roman spas in Bath are not Celtic btw. I'm referring to the ancient Pagan sites like Woodhenge, Avebury, Stonehenge... there's literally thousands on this island didn't you know? Yea that's right... thousands! How ignorant.

    80% of Britons support the monarchy? You're very pc, but I've never actually seen a vote take place on this and quite frankly I don't believe the medias claimed opinion polls of British support for the monarch given the poor public turnout at Kate & Will's wedding. Most Britons are sick of the monarchy. Most the crowds of people standing outside Buckingham Palace each day are tourists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Rose View Post
    I think you work for MI5 tbh and I should know where I was born, cheers! The ancient Roman spas in Bath are not Celtic btw. I'm referring to the ancient Pagan sites like Woodhenge, Avebury, Stonehenge... there's literally thousands on this island didn't you know? Yea that's right... thousands! How ignorant.

    80% of Britons support the monarchy? You're very pc, but I've never actually seen a vote take place on this and quite frankly I don't believe the medias claimed opinion polls of British support for the monarch given the poor public turnout at Kate & Will's wedding. Most Britons are sick of the monarchy. Most the crowds of people standing outside Buckingham Palace each day are tourists.
    They are Celtic. The Romans built the bathhouses but the springs were a sacred site to them. Thousands I don't know, but you named the three best-known.

    Look, I think this ridiculous defensiveness is just proving my point. You're from MI5. Honestly.

    The vast majority of Britons support it. I can't believe this is news to you. Ask some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by English Rose View Post
    Do you think we'd be better off as a union but without the Queen (she's German descent anyway) and with a decent government in place for everyone and being free from the EU control over Britain?
    Are you against the Queen just because she's German? That's racist!

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    Longbowman, Graham, brothers, don't bother with English (?) Rose, she's a racist.

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