Serbian DNA project

[Pribislav]

Agree..It's hard to bellive that this samples from "paleo balkan ppl" could push us western..And it's also question what hapend whit paleo balkan population bc they plot more south and more eastern than sample before Slavic and German influance..

Almost full Paleo-Balkanians Aromanians are quite eastern shifted folks.

Aromanian from Macedonia whose results I posted ploting close to Bulgarians.

[HungryLion]

Almost full Paleo-Balkanians Aromanians are quite eastern shifted folks.

Aromanian from Macedonia whose results I posted ploting close to Bulgarians.

Yeah but from what I saw Albanians plot more southern that samples from dalmatia and slavonia..It's not good for what they trying to prove..I mean after Slavs and Germans how they menage to plot more south than anicent population od balkan? Only if they took women from turkey, I know their 2 big tribes have turkish origins I mean if they said how they didn't mix whit Slavs, but whit who they mix to become more southern than ppl before slavic "invasion" ..

[Dick]

Agree..It's hard to bellive that this samples from "paleo balkan ppl" could push us western..And it's also question what hapend whit paleo balkan population bc they plot more south and more eastern than sample before Slavic and German influance..

maybe it's not as complicated as we think. most south slavs (excluding macedonians and and bulgarians) are more like southwest slavs or southern shifted Slovenes?

[HungryLion]

maybe it's not as complicated as we think. most south slavs (excluding macedonians and and bulgarians) are more like southwest slavs or southern shifted Slovenes?

That have more seance...I just trying to understand how some population who calaim that they are tje same like paleo balkans, but they are even after mixed whit or just livin close the Slavs turn out to be more south than sample before slavic migration.

[MagnusDark]

Yeah but from what I saw Albanians plot more southern that samples from dalmatia and slavonia..It's not good for what they trying to prove..I mean after Slavs and Germans how they menage to plot more south than anicent population od balkan? Only if they took women from turkey, I know their 2 big tribes have turkish origins I mean if they said how they didn't mix whit Slavs, but whit who they mix to become more southern than ppl before slavic "invasion" ..

Good God you have to be a little smarter than this. Albanians don’t score Turkic admixture. If anything some south Slavs score more of it. Even then though Turkic admixture in Balkan folk is minimal to null. Stop spreading BS propaganda. Do some actual reading of genetics papers. Lay off apricity sometimes.

[North Sea]

Yeah but from what I saw Albanians plot more southern that samples from dalmatia and slavonia..It's not good for what they trying to prove..I mean after Slavs and Germans how they menage to plot more south than anicent population od balkan? Only if they took women from turkey, I know their 2 big tribes have turkish origins I mean if they said how they didn't mix whit Slavs, but whit who they mix to become more southern than ppl before slavic "invasion" ..

There were ancient Balkan samples that plot extremely south , south of tuscans, and some were more north, some were more west and some were east... same for Albanians , we arent all identical , same way those samples arent all identical


Vucedol sample was plotting just West of me , I plot West of Bulgarians . Probanly EHG like admix shifted some of us East and Neolithic more South.


Have never seen any significant Turkic admixture in Albos. And I'm pretty sure that doesn't shift you south but rather extremely east.


Those samples found in West Balkans are also just Bronze Age samples, same way for those found In Bulgaria that were plotting with North Euros. They arent an evidence of pre slavic Balkan people which is why they are more North but Bronze Age samples found in West Balkans are autosomally closer to us because they were more South.


Iron Age samples in Bulgaria were more South than Bronze Age which were even more north than Romanians and Bulgarians. So they clearly mixed with natives to produce Southern people.


If you want to see what pre Slavic people of Balkans were like you need to find samples from later but they were basically like Albanians, Aromanians, Italians and Greeks more or less. Some Macedonians and Bulgarians and Romanians also fall into this cluster.

I can tell you Albanians plot over a large area, I will make a PCA MAP in the future to show this.

[Pribislav]

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[Novi Pazar]

There were ancient Balkan samples that plot extremely south , south of tuscans, and some were more north, some were more west and some were east... same for Albanians , we arent all identical , same way those samples arent all identical


Vucedol sample was plotting just West of me , I plot West of Bulgarians . Probanly EHG like admix shifted some of us East and Neolithic more South.


Have never seen any significant Turkic admixture in Albos. And I'm pretty sure that doesn't shift you south but rather extremely east.


Those samples found in West Balkans are also just Bronze Age samples, same way for those found In Bulgaria that were plotting with North Euros. They arent an evidence of pre slavic Balkan people which is why they are more North but Bronze Age samples found in West Balkans are autosomally closer to us because they were more South.


Iron Age samples in Bulgaria were more South than Bronze Age which were even more north than Romanians and Bulgarians. So they clearly mixed with natives to produce Southern people.


If you want to see what pre Slavic people of Balkans were like you need to find samples from later but they were basically like Albanians, Aromanians, Italians and Greeks more or less. Some Macedonians and Bulgarians and Romanians also fall into this cluster.

I can tell you Albanians plot over a large area, I will make a PCA MAP in the future to show this.

Your culture arrives into Balkans at 1043AD! Serbs and their off-shoots (Croats, Bosniaks, Montenegrins etc....) are noted for their higher percentage of Native Paleo Haplogroup Y-DNA I than any other Balkanite!

[Pribislav]

[Frotous]

Hello how do I register of Poreklo? I want to upload my results on there and the map