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    Quote Originally Posted by The Devil's Advocate View Post
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    Da li se zna nesto za Nemanjice i da li se kod nas uopste rade testiranja tih starih nalaza - zemnih ostataka?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Devil's Advocate View Post
    Mlloš Obrenović je bio najverovatnije I2-CTS10228 (samim tim i ostali pripadnici dinastije Obrenović).
    U vezi ovoga, pošteno bi bilo da navedem izvor. Testirani su Čvrkići iz mesta Rošci kod Čačka, koji bi po literaturi trebali da su povezani po direktnoj muškoj liniji sa dinastijom Obrenović:

    "Najstarije porodice su Čvrkići, potomci starog popa Miloša iz Bratonožića, koje je doveo nekakav iguman man. Nikolja, stric popa Miloša. Stric je otpratio popa u G. Dobrinju da tamo popuje, a ovde je zadržao njegovog sinovca Jevrema Čvrku i od njega su ostali potomci, poznati u selu pod nekoliko prezimena, ali uopšte najpoznatiji pod gornjim prezimenom; ima ih pod Kablarom 12 kuća, u Rapajlovači 2, u Kamenici 2, u Novom Selu 8, u Rakovici 5, svega 29 kuća, slave sv. Nikolu."

    http://www.poreklo.rs/2013/07/17/por...8Dak/?lang=lat

    Pop Miloš iz Dobrinje koji se spominje ovde u tekstu je pradeda Milošu Obrenoviću.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    Da li se zna nesto za Nemanjice i da li se kod nas uopste rade testiranja tih starih nalaza - zemnih ostataka?
    To nećemo skoro saznati.

    Može da uzme dnk iz moštiju cara Dušana koje se nalaze u crkvi sv. Marka u Beogradu, međutim ne postoji volja za takav poduhvat.
    Postoje mošti i drugih Nemanjića ali oni su svetitelji i teško da bi crkva dala odobrenje za to, jer to smatra skrnavljenjem moštiju.
    Jedina šansa je car Dušan, pošto on jedini od Nemanjića nije proglašen svecem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Smatralo se da Obrenovići potiču iz Bratonožića, a oni su Q i L.

    Ima li neka nova teorija o poreklu Obrenovića?
    Bratonožići su Q-L245, a bratstva koja su L1b-M317 su samo iz Bratonožića starinom po predanju, nema nikakve druge naznake da bi zaista odatle mogli biti, osim dakle predanja.

    Što se Obrenovića tiče, možda su neki starinci u Brdima ili Zeti. Bratonožići Q-L245 očito nisu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insuperable View Post
    Ti znas za tu jednu studiju. Ja znam za jos jednu od 140 uzoraka isti postotak. No sigurno stvarni postotak nije toliki.
    Mislim da je na osnovu javnih rezultata Hrvata iz Hercegovine (FT-DNA i 23andme) procenat I2a bio na oko 50%, ili malo više, do 55%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    Da li se zna nesto za Nemanjice i da li se kod nas uopste rade testiranja tih starih nalaza - zemnih ostataka?
    Testirana je jedna katolička porodica iz Popova Polja koja ima predanje da je poreklom od kneževa Grgurević-Nikolića iz Popova (potomci Miroslava, Nemanjinog rođenog brata). Ta katolička porodica je I1-Z63. Ono što je interesantno je to da je ta katolička porodica genetski isti rod sa nekim pravoslavnim porodicama iz Popova koje slave Stevanjdan, a zna se da su neke zadužbine Grgurević-Nikolića, pa i Nemanjića bile posvećene upravo ovom svecu, što čitavu stvar čini jako zanimljivom. Međutim, treba testirati ostatke makar dvojice Nemanjića da bi se doneo konačan zaključak o njihovoj haplogrupi, iako su ovi podaci koje sam naveo jako indikativni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Devil's Advocate View Post
    Testirana je jedna katolička porodica iz Popova Polja koja ima predanje da je poreklom od kneževa Grgurević-Nikolića iz Popova (potomci Miroslava, Nemanjinog rođenog brata). Ta katolička porodica je I1-Z63. Ono što je interesantno je to da je ta katolička porodica genetski isti rod sa nekim pravoslavnim porodicama iz Popova koje slave Stevanjdan, a zna se da su neke zadužbine Grgurević-Nikolića, pa i Nemanjića bile posvećene upravo ovom svecu, što čitavu stvar čini jako zanimljivom. Međutim, treba testirati ostatke makar dvojice Nemanjića da bi se doneo konačan zaključak o njihovoj haplogrupi, iako su ovi podaci koje sam naveo jako indikativni.
    Tek se sad vidi koliko je kurvanje štetno.

    Napraviš dijete komšinici ona slaže da je dijete od muža i napraviš HAOS Srpskom DNK projektu jbg.

    zar nije tako.

    Srpski DNK projekat treba moto, evo jedan moj prijedlog: "Stavljaj gdje treba, ne guraj u tuđe"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptolemy View Post
    Tek se sad vidi koliko je kurvanje štetno.

    Napraviš dijete komšinici ona slaže da je dijete od muža i napraviš HAOS Srpskom DNK projektu jbg.

    zar nije tako.

    Srpski DNK projekat treba moto, evo jedan moj prijedlog: "Stavljaj gdje treba, ne guraj u tuđe"
    Jesi li ti pri sebi?

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    Evo jednog našeg saborca iz Bugarske i Makedonije koji je emigrirao u Tursku,

    Ovako izgleda Srbin koji se pomješa sa Turcima, znači vidi se iz aviona ...

    a u Bosni i Srbiji nema Turske krvi.

    1 60% Serbian + 40% Turkish @ 3.19
    2 67.5% Romanian + 32.5% Turkish @ 3.37
    3 70.9% Romanian + 29.1% Azeri @ 3.37
    4 74.9% Romanian + 25.1% Iranian @ 3.72
    5 53.5% East_German + 46.5% Assyrian @ 3.88
    6 54.4% East_German + 45.6% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.89
    7 54.9% East_German + 45.1% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.91
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    12 56.6% Austrian + 43.4% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.08
    13 79.2% Greek_Thessaly + 20.8% Tadjik @ 4.12
    14 75.8% Romanian + 24.2% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.17
    15 57.1% Austrian + 42.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.2
    16 69% Serbian + 31% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.21
    17 58.3% Hungarian + 41.7% Assyrian @ 4.21
    18 68.3% Serbian + 31.7% Assyrian @ 4.28
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    Quote Originally Posted by blabla View Post
    Very intersting
    http://poreklo.rs/srpski-dnk-projekat/

    What is funny, almost all of R1b results are Serbs from Croatia.
    Hello,
    maybe somebody here can help me.
    Few months ago I read the post #1505 Aug 20th in the Форум - Порекло:
    https://www.poreklo.rs/forum/index.php?topic=1193.1500
    I cannot read Serbian but I understood the reported "Грчевић, ХР, R1b-S20782" result belongs to the Serbian DNA Project.
    If that is true, I would like to contact this person because I'm R1b-S20782 too.
    I have been not able to register for that forum so maybe somebody can help me to contact that person.
    In order to help people with the same problem, I started a collaborative project called "YDNA of Your Matches" here:
    https://asquecco.000webhostapp.com/
    Only the Paternal Haplogroup information is collected in this project.
    Thanks.
    Regards,
    Adriano

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