View Poll Results: Are you pro or anti-NATO?

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  • My native country is a NATO country and I'm against NATO

    74 45.12%
  • My native country is not a NATO country and I'm against NATO

    32 19.51%
  • My native country is a NATO country and I'm pro-NATO

    29 17.68%
  • My native country is not NATO country and I'm pro-NATO

    16 9.76%
  • My native country is a NATO country and I dont have a particular opinion about it

    10 6.10%
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    3 1.83%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Actually, Russian emperors settled both Ukrainians and Russians in what is now known eastern Ukraine.

    Russia cultivated that land previously known as Wild Fields, and built all cities there. Russia gave prosperity to all people there.




    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Fields




    By the way, what is your opinion about territorial integrity of Serbia and forcely seceded Kosovo province, are you concerned about it in the same way as for Ukraine, or there are double standards, and integrity of Serbia is irrelevant???
    In regards to Kosovo I feel the same as I do towards Ukraine. Kosovo is Serbian land, as Ukraine is Ukrainian land. The Albanians and Russians are both guilty of imperialism.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Old Comrade View Post
    A genocide claimed by Putin and his propagandists alone. If there is one, where is the evidence ? It kinda reminds of the claims made about the ill-treatment and genocide of Germans in 1930s Czechoslovakia and Poland. The source at the time ? The Nazi German media.
    Plenty of evidence available, and widely published even to the UN. That's why the Minsk Agreements were made, to try and stop it. But of course, Ukraine didn't keep their side of the deal and the West (Merkel and Macron, etc) turned a blind eye to Kiev's crimes. And Western media anti Russian narratives deliberately buried the real facts, and kept pushing lies. That's why we are where we are today. Our governments are incredibly corrupt and evil.
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    My country is one of the founding members from 1949 and I am in favor of the Alliance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Plenty of evidence available, and widely published even to the UN. That's why the Minsk Agreements were made, to try and stop it. But of course, Ukraine didn't keep their side of the deal and the West (Merkel and Macron, etc) turned a blind eye to Kiev's crimes. And Western media anti Russian narratives deliberately buried the real facts, and kept pushing lies. That's why we are where we are today. Our governments are incredibly corrupt and evil.
    Again, says Putin. I don't believe anything that comes out of Moscow these days, and what I despise Puttin most for is the fact that we in Europe can't withdraw from NATO at this point. Had he not been aggressive towards his neighbours since 2008 (Georgia), NATO might well have been a dead letter by the 2010s and a democratic Ukraine, doing as it wants and making its own choices as a free and democratic country would not have been a "risk" for them - but something tells me that he can't accept anyone in his area not doing as he wishes, because it would pose a risk to him: what if the Russian population would see a free, democratic country on his doorstep, that is actually doing well ? That's the whole reason why he invaded Ukraine: so he could stay in power himself by destabilising Europe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    My country is one of the founding members from 1949 and I am in favor of the Alliance.
    I used to be in favour of the Netherlands leaving NATO. Still no fan of it, but Putin managed to make NATO viable again. Some folks in Brussels will be mightily pleased. Still, this Norwegian song sums up my feelings:

    Det kviskrar frå oljeog stålprodusentar.
    Det kviskar i Pentagons fredskanselli.
    På fem kontinet kviskar Moskvas agentar;
    "Gløym vårt krigsmaskineri!"


    And:

    Dei rustar og mobliserer
    Atter kanonar for smør!
    I aust står dei klar til å hærta Europa,
    I vest trugar NATO med verdspolti
    Dei rivialserer!
    Snart høyer du ropa;
    "Krig for verdshemgemoni!"



    When push comes to shove, they are both the same. But Putin is the more urgent problem. If he had been a smarter man, he would have convinced Europe to take in Ukraine, leave NATO and form a neutral zone. But he just couldn't help himself but invade his neighbours. Claiming all sorts of nonsense - like that Austrian painter back in 1939.


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