Pro-Nato or Against-Nato?

[Loki]

That, pretty much, is my own stance too. It's more that Mr. Putin has forced Europe's and America's hands. Nobody was waiting for Ukraine to join the West, but it seems that Mr. Putin has driven them into our camp. Same for Sweden and Finland. Thanks to Mr. Putin, this is now a fait accompli, and no longer a subject for political debate. Moscow has decided this for us.

If you can't see what an evil the Zelensky regime is, you're not looking hard enough. Ukraine will be the end of the EU and of NATO. The process has already started. The US and many European countries are already almost out of weapons. They're being destroyed in Ukraine by the Russians.

[Your Old Comrade]

If you can't see what an evil the Zelensky regime is, you're not looking hard enough. Ukraine will be the end of the EU and of NATO. The process has already started. The US and many European countries are already almost out of weapons. They're being destroyed in Ukraine by the Russians.

The only thing that is being currently destroyed is the myth of Russian power. I feel sorry for those poor soldiers that have to de for an imperialist dictator in Moscow.

[Your Old Comrade]

If you can't see what an evil the Zelensky regime is, you're not looking hard enough. Ukraine will be the end of the EU and of NATO. The process has already started. The US and many European countries are already almost out of weapons. They're being destroyed in Ukraine by the Russians.

The only thing that is being currently destroyed is the myth of Russian power. I feel sorry for those poor soldiers that have to de for an imperialist dictator in Moscow.

[Loki]

I am pro-Nato, but only because our country was forced to sign the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. Without that we could nuke Moscow and Washington. It would be a great presentation. We have all necessary to do it. Uranium mines and technology.

That's why you Finns, Balts and Poles will never be trusted to have nuclear weapons. Even the Americans won't allow you. And Russia certainly won't.

[Russki]

Funny how there was no problem between Russia and Ukraine, while they were still under the thumb from one of Putin's stooges.

There was. The territorial claims towards Ukraine were voiced in Russia since 1990s, but the general consensus was that as long as Ukraine is a friendly nation, it is not particularly important.

[Loki]

The only thing that is being currently destroyed is the myth of Russian power. I feel sorry for those poor soldiers that have to de for an imperialist dictator in Moscow.

Pity you don't seem to have access to the real news, because the Russians are winning on the battlefield, and winning big.

[Your Old Comrade]

There was. The territorial claims towards Ukraine were voiced in Russia since 1990s, but the general consensus was that as long as Ukraine is a friendly nation, it is not particularly important.

Either way: it is unlikely since the start of the 2014 invasion that Ukraine will ever be a "friendly" nation again. One doesn't need to have a stooge for a president to have friendship on a diplomatic or interpersonal basis. Mr. Putin blew that one, and any option of reconciliation, is now very likely out of the window. Even between the Netherlands and West Germany, both belonging to NATO, that friendship wouldn't be repaired fully until well in the 1990s. That was the work of one Austrian. As this will be the work of one fool from St. Petersburg and his ilk.

[Your Old Comrade]

Pity you don't seem to have access to the real news, because the Russians are winning on the battlefield, and winning big.

RT is not real news.

[Loki]

RT is not real news.

It is, but I'm not even talking about RT. I follow real reports from the battlefield, from the Russian and Ukrainian ministries of defense. I use various sources. You only use the same source, masquerading as different ones, but it's the censored Western media. That's why you don't know what's really going on.

[Your Old Comrade]

It is, but I'm not even talking about RT. I follow real reports from the battlefield, from the Russian and Ukrainian ministries of defense. I use various sources. You only use the same source, masquerading as different ones, but it's the censored Western media. That's why you don't know what's really going on.

I highly doubt that, because I don't watch Western media when it comes to the war. But what you suffer from, my dear friend, is that the delusion that the enemy of our enemy is our friend. I don't suffer from that delusion: they are both as bad as the other and until the devil (Russia) that is doing the attacking, keeps causing mayhem and destruction, we will have no choice but to stick to the other devil (NATO) while rearming ourselves to the hilt.