View Poll Results: Do you think Macedonia should join Greece to solve the name dispute??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    I've said Bulgarians have some Ancient Greek in them as do Macedonians.

    All of the Balkans is to some degree mixed with one another by now.
    Since you have no historical knowledge on the matter why are you trying to impose your point of view and an answer to a subject you dont know....moreover when is solely based on your "observations" of how we look alike to the Slavs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    All of the Balkans is to some degree mixed with one another by now.
    To some degree mix is something totaly different from Hellinized Slavs.
    Its really hilarious to see all these Hellinized something posts, and none is a turkified/Slavicized/Albanized Greek, which, considering the fact that Greeks are very very old in this area, and the surroundings, is more possible than all the other combinations.
    Anyway..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandelion View Post
    To some degree mix is something totaly different from Hellinized Slavs.
    Its really hilarious to see all these Hellinized something posts, and none is a turkified/Slavicized/Albanized Greek, which, considering the fact that Greeks are very very old in this area, and the surroundings, is more possible than all the other combinations.
    Anyway..
    But some of the Greeks here are in denial that they have ANY Slavic ancestry. I keep seeing how Macedonians are Slavic invaders, Bulgarians are Slavic invaders.. but Slavs did not magically stop at the Greek border. In fact, much of Greece was once Slavic speaking until the population exchange and the arrival of Anatolian Greeks from Turkey.

    There is a Slavic component to many parts of mainland Greece.. it shows genetically, it shows phenotypically. So before talking about "Slavic" invaders, don't forget that many people in Greece today have Slavic ancestry themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post

    There is a Slavic component to many parts of mainland Greece.. it shows genetically, it shows phenotypically. selves.
    Phenotypically is in you mind....genetycally where it shows?

    Why are you so passionate to tell us what we are and what we should accept and with whoms our grandmotehrs slept and had children? Were you in our beds and we dont know about it?

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    All I am saying is, don't put up this front that you are some pure master race and everyone else around you is mixed or descended from invaders when you have a lot of Slavic and Albanian ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linet View Post
    Phenotypically is in you mind....genetycally where it shows?
    Northern Greece has a high amount of haplogroups I2 and R1a1a and not all that much of the original Greek haplogroups E1b1b and J2.

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    We have no Slavic and no Albanian anchestry and yes we are pure....is that bothering you? Is it affecting your life in some kind of way and you want desperately to prove our genetical inpurity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    But some of the Greeks here are in denial that they have ANY Slavic ancestry. I keep seeing how Macedonians are Slavic invaders, Bulgarians are Slavic invaders.. but Slavs did not magically stop at the Greek border. In fact, much of Greece was once Slavic speaking until the population exchange and the arrival of Anatolian Greeks from Turkey.
    Its not more that the mix that all our neighbors have with Greece.
    Much like Slavs were in Greek borders once, was Greeks out of Greek borders within thousands of years.
    But somehow NOONE never mentions that. Weak sperm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Northern Greece has a high amount of haplogroups I2 and R1a1a and not all that much of the original Greek haplogroups E1b1b and J2.
    I ll tell you a secret...Greeks themeselves were many tribes...Dorians, Ionians, Minoas, Aeolians, Arcadians and few smaller ones....which of them are up to you not Greek enough so not to accept their haplogroup and which ones have the "pure Hellenic" haplogroups you are talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linet View Post
    We have no Slavic and no Albanian anchestry and yes we are pure
    NO you're not.

    Northern Greeks (Thrace & Macedonia) (296 samples)
    I : 21.6
    R1a : 18.2

    R1b : 13.2
    E1b : 20.6
    G2 : 4.7
    J2 : 14.9
    J1 : 3.4
    LT : 2.7
    * : 0.7

    SLAVIC ancestry right there.

    If you were pure, it'd look more like these results.. obviously, the elevated I2 and R1a1a means Balkan and Slavic ancestry.

    Eastern Greeks (Aegean islands & Ionia) (158 samples)
    I : 11.4
    R1a : 7.6
    R1b : 22.8
    E1b : 20.3
    G2 : 8.2
    J2 : 19.6
    J1 : 5.1
    LT : 3.2
    * : 1.9

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