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  • Sicily should stay part of Italy, and Malta independent.

    29 40.28%
  • Malta should become part of Italy as a Sicilian province (like Messina or Catania)

    14 19.44%
  • Sicily should receive independence from Italy and unite with Malta.

    12 16.67%
  • Sicily should become independent from Italy but not unite with Malta.

    17 23.61%
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Thread: Should Sicily receive independence from Italy and join with Malta?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malta1066Falzon View Post
    However, I kinda like the idea of uniting Malta and Sicily with the only condition that Malta is the rightful leading "Influence" since we have a richer History (from the Megalithic Temples to the Knights Hospitaller), a badass Flag, better management of resources and financial/budget/trade/investment skills.
    Well Malta is better off seperate.

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    Emh, Sicily have richer history than Malta. Magna Graecia, Arhimedes, ... Byzantines, Arabs, Normans, Friedrich II, Angevins, Catalans.... Churches, monasteries, mosaics,...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Twistedmind View Post
    Emh, Sicily have richer history than Malta. Magna Graecia, Arhimedes, ... Byzantines, Arabs, Normans, Friedrich II, Angevins, Catalans.... Churches, monasteries, mosaics,...
    But Maltese heritage and culture is basically Sicilian culture of the Middle Ages, plus British influences. The blood of Magna Graecia, Archimedes, the Byzantines, Arabs, and Normans is in the Maltese too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twistedmind View Post
    Emh, Sicily have richer history than Malta. Magna Graecia, Arhimedes, ... Byzantines, Arabs, Normans, Friedrich II, Angevins, Catalans.... Churches, monasteries, mosaics,...

    add the Knights Hospitaller to those and you got Malta's History.

    edit: also the oldest Megalithic constructions in Europe, if not the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    But Maltese heritage and culture is basically Sicilian culture of the Middle Ages, plus British influences. The blood of Magna Graecia, Archimedes, the Byzantines, Arabs, and Normans is in the Maltese too.
    Hm, well, similar connection exists with Southern Italy, as far as Napoli and Bari. Not to mention It was called Sicily as well in past. Kingdom of Two Sicilies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twistedmind View Post
    Hm, well, similar connection exists with Southern Italy, as far as Napoli and Bari. Not to mention It was called Sicily as well in past. Kingdom of Two Sicilies.
    It becomes complicated because culture evolves so rapidly that you have to draw the line for what is the "true" culture of a land. To me, the true culture of a land is the culture that originated in its borders, and not what was transplanted from elsewhere.

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    However I prefer Norman Lowell's "IMPERIUM EVROPA" idea. As crazy as it might sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    It becomes complicated because culture evolves so rapidly that you have to draw the line for what is the "true" culture of a land. To me, the true culture of a land is the culture that originated in its borders, and not what was transplanted from elsewhere.
    I knida agree, but as I said that culture is not just Sicilian, rather Pan-Southern Italian. And all is kind complicated, so I as foreigner would never mess in such bussiness.

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    When the South of Italy improves in some way, it could be a boon for Malta to join- obviously they are similar in culture. Of course, protection of the unique Maltese language (Punic?) should be priority as official language status along with Sicilian.

    Add Calabria and possibly Apulia to the union as well. Hypothetically speaking it would be a good match. However, I don't know if Sicily is ready for this kind of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis View Post
    When the South of Italy improves in some way, it could be a boon for Malta to join- obviously they are similar in culture. Of course, protection of the unique Maltese language (Punic?) should be priority as official language status along with Sicilian.
    Maltese language is the result of Maghrebi Arabic and the Sicilian language (a distinct Romance language that had formed from Latin in western Sicily) fusing together. It's classified as a Semitic language but much of its vocabulary is from Sicilian.

    Most "Arabs" in Sicily were Arabic-speaking native origin Sicilians, who would have been largely of ancient Greek heritage along with Phoenician and some Italian from the mainland. When these people were expelled by the Normans, most went to Malta, and that's where the Maltese language came from along with their surnames.

    Before the Normans expelled them, Sicily was basically culturally akin to today's Malta in the west, and Greek-speaking Orthodox Christians in the east. Whichever culture was dominant should have become the dominant Sicilian culture. But that didn't happen and eventually the Greek east was Latinized.

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