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    Question "I understand your suggestion, and I will keep it in mind for the future."

    Quote Originally Posted by ImpishTears View Post
    The comments are client side,
    meaning they aren't part of the page,
    meaning they can't be imported into the new wiki.
    FANDOM


    This wiki has been closed

    You can retrieve your content if you like.
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    Current pages (this version is usually best for bot use)
    Current pages and history (warning: this file may be very large)

    as you noticed,

    each of my carefully constructed comments
    modelled a different technique
    for presenting referenced physical anthropology information

    (including a sub-set of comments
    demonstrating how to gently challenge
    the portions of text
    that lack any referent in reality
    or physical anthropology text-books)

    and was intentionally designed and crafted
    as an illustration to readers
    of how they could courteously and successfully participate
    in the great conversation.

    those exemplars of productive participation
    in expanding the knowledge-base
    are not preserved in the large file?


    Quote Originally Posted by ImpishTears View Post
    You are gonna have to make them again
    if you so desire.

    my desire to improve your grand project
    is nearly as great as my enthusiasm for building wikipedia
    over twenty years ago — on the other hand,

    calmer counselors have pointed out
    that none of my initial simple suggestions
    to improve the reliability of posted material on the wiki
    have been implemented (despite

    the demonstration of our detailed references
    for even very obscure sub-sub-races in our index

    in addition to the reference-sections
    and references added to hundreds of phenotype-pages on the wiki) —

    which suggests any corrective efforts on my part
    would be a time-consuming unending exercise

    of correcting individual sentences

    because preventative policies will be considered in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lei.talk View Post

    as you noticed,

    each of my carefully constructed comments
    modelled a different technique
    for presenting referenced physical anthropology information

    (including a sub-set of comments
    demonstrating how to gently challenge
    the portions of text
    that lack any referent in reality
    or physical anthropology text-books)

    and was intentionally designed and crafted
    as an illustration to readers
    of how they could courteously and successfully participate
    in the great conversation.

    those exemplars of productive participation
    in expanding the knowledge-base
    are not preserved in the large file?




    my desire to improve your grand project
    is nearly as great as my enthusiasm for building wikipedia
    over twenty years ago — on the other hand,

    calmer counselors have pointed out
    that none of my initial simple suggestions
    to improve the reliability of posted material on the wiki
    have been implemented (despite

    the demonstration of our detailed references
    for even very obscure sub-sub-races in our index

    in addition to the reference-sections
    and references added to hundreds of phenotype-pages on the wiki) —

    which suggests any corrective efforts on my part
    would be a time-consuming unending exercise

    of correcting individual sentences

    because preventative policies will be considered in the future.
    Your comments are not preserved in the file, because unlike in Miraheze, comments arent a part of the page in fandom, instead its a specific section, and fandom wont save them sadly. There is nothing to be done about it.

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    Thumbs up thank you for taking the time to clarify that point

    Quote Originally Posted by ImpishTears View Post
    Your comments are not preserved in the file...
    There is nothing to be done about it.

    understandably,
    managing your wiki is time-consuming
    and leaves little time to address off-site questions.

    thank you
    for responding to one of mine — twice.

    hopefully,
    there will be a convenient time for you
    to address my associated questions
    in the future.

    patience has always come easily to me
    (no thing ventured — no thing lost).


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    Quote Originally Posted by lei.talk View Post

    as you noticed,

    each of my carefully constructed comments
    modelled a different technique
    for presenting referenced physical anthropology information

    (including a sub-set of comments
    demonstrating how to gently challenge
    the portions of text
    that lack any referent in reality
    or physical anthropology text-books)

    and was intentionally designed and crafted
    as an illustration to readers
    of how they could courteously and successfully participate
    in the great conversation.

    those exemplars of productive participation
    in expanding the knowledge-base
    are not preserved in the large file?




    my desire to improve your grand project
    is nearly as great as my enthusiasm for building wikipedia
    over twenty years ago — on the other hand,

    calmer counselors have pointed out
    that none of my initial simple suggestions
    to improve the reliability of posted material on the wiki
    have been implemented (despite

    the demonstration of our detailed references
    for even very obscure sub-sub-races in our index

    in addition to the reference-sections
    and references added to hundreds of phenotype-pages on the wiki) —

    which suggests any corrective efforts on my part
    would be a time-consuming unending exercise

    of correcting individual sentences

    because preventative policies will be considered in the future.
    I know perfectly what you mean, and i blame my forgetfulness for forgetting to cite the literature.

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    is it accurate most of the time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arco View Post
    is it accurate most of the time?
    It has errors, but i'd say its mostly accurate.

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    Question how can any one judge the accuracy when no evidence is presented

    Quote Originally Posted by arco View Post
    is it accurate most of the time?
    every physical anthropology taxa is documented by scientists.

    we have not deposited every text in to the internet archive,
    but — there is sufficient material available
    to reference most additions/deletions.

    imagine the burden of moderating changes
    unaccompanied by any evidence

    because there is no policy requiring evidence.

    how can any one judge
    which words are accurate or which are not
    or the general level of accuracy for the whole content

    if references are lacking


    Quote Originally Posted by ImpishTears View Post
    I know perfectly what you mean...
    my words are not difficult to understand.

    a few days past, as we observed the children
    enjoying a wall-poster of jan czekanowski's world-race diagram
    by sticking taxonomic labels and photographs (norma facialis & lateralis)
    in the appropriate locations —

    one of the parents too casually commented
    "
    Esbjörn just tagged the Savid. Notice how carefully he distanced it from Caeli's Norid."
    her husband expanded in to her comment:
    "
    Remember why we suggested you visit that phenotype wikia?"

    "To alleviate their reliance on 'bro-science' in human taxonomy?"

    "
    It was their discussion of deleting the Savid page because their Norid morph was indistinguishable from the Savid morph which meant those two taxa must be synonymous."

    "I remember."

    "
    We provided maps to emphasize the geographical difference implied by the names. There were hot-links to all of the physical anthropologists documenting the two subraces and the adjacent varieties. The relevant books and articles were itemized in detail."

    "I remember."

    she shook her head as she questioned "
    How could they not know Lebzelter's Norische Rasse...
    ...was first documented in Lammasch's Norische Republik?" her husband concluded.

    "What do they teach children in school, now-a-days?"
    now, shaking my head (sympathetically).

    "
    That was the most documented page on that wikia."

    "I remember."

    "
    It has been deleted."

    my words are not difficult to understand.
    why would we spend many more months contributing
    to see research disappear


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    Quote Originally Posted by lei.talk View Post
    every physical anthropology taxa is documented by scientists.

    we have not deposited every text in to the internet archive,
    but — there is sufficient material available
    to reference most additions/deletions.

    imagine the burden of moderating changes
    unaccompanied by any evidence

    because there is no policy requiring evidence.

    how can any one judge
    which words are accurate or which are not
    or the general level of accuracy for the whole content

    if references are lacking



    my words are not difficult to understand.

    a few days past, as we observed the children
    enjoying a wall-poster of jan czekanowski's world-race diagram
    by sticking taxonomic labels and photographs (norma facialis & lateralis)
    in the appropriate locations —

    one of the parents too casually commented
    "
    Esbjörn just tagged the Savid. Notice how carefully he distanced it from Caeli's Norid."
    her husband expanded in to her comment:
    "
    Remember why we suggested you visit that phenotype wikia?"

    "To alleviate their reliance on 'bro-science' in human taxonomy?"

    "
    It was their discussion of deleting the Savid page because their Norid morph was indistinguishable from the Savid morph which meant those two taxa must be synonymous."

    "I remember."

    "
    We provided maps to emphasize the geographical difference implied by the names. There were hot-links to all of the physical anthropologists documenting the two subraces and the adjacent varieties. The relevant books and articles were itemized in detail."

    "I remember."

    she shook her head as she questioned "
    How could they not know Lebzelter's Norische Rasse...
    ...was first documented in Lammasch's Norische Republik?" her husband concluded.

    "What do they teach children in school, now-a-days?"
    now, shaking my head (sympathetically).

    "
    That was the most documented page on that wikia."

    "I remember."

    "
    It has been deleted."

    my words are not difficult to understand.
    why would we spend many more months contributing
    to see research disappear
    Check the new rules. A new clause has been added demanding citations for phenotypes and information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lei.talk View Post
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