Negroid-Euro vs. Amerind-Euro Admixtures Compared To African Caucasoid and Euro Asian Populations.

[SilverKnight]

So here's the thread I had in plan from a discussion that originated in this thread and to avoid from making it more off topic then what it already was over there I decided to separate and continue elsewhere...

Purpose: To give you better clearer idea and understanding on how each of their respective ancestral compositions influences their physical characteristics. Also how Afro-Euro admixture differ/compare with their Amerindian-Euro common in the New World (Americas).

Even though Amerindians have been proven to be much closer to Europeans then their Sub-Saharan counterparts are, we could still see Amerindian influences even in the most diluted forms in some cases just as it will happen with very diluted Sub-Saharan genes in a person. Genetics in the formation of a human are very complex and random so there's no exact way to tell if a person is going to look a certain way just by considering their admixture, it is non-sense.

Keep it civil/ mature please.

Negroid-Euro vs. Amerind-Euro Admixtures Compared To African Caucasoid and Euro Asian Populations.

- Physical Overlaps -
(note! overlapping doesn't necessarily mean genetically nor that they look like an exact representation of these respective population just an estimate or the closest when compared, last not all photos above are completely an accurate representation of the average in other words not the best pics but OK, so please help me.. all this just in case!).

Category I ("The Halvs" - found mostly in recent admixtures)

Text Book Mulatto
around 50/50 Black and White- He's neither black nor white.
US president Barack Hussein Obama



Overlapping: Other Mulattoes (on average).



Text Book Mestizo
around 50/50 Amerindian and White- He's neither Amerindian nor white.
L.A Rapper "Elecholo"





Overlapping: Other Mestizos (on average).

Category II ("Intermediates" very common)

Intermediate Between Mulatto & Quadroon Around 55-65% White.

Dominican.


Overlapping: Some North Africans, East Africans not all.


Intermediate Between Mestizo & Castizo Around 55-65 White.

Mexican.


Overlapping: Some Central Asians.

Category III ("The Quarters" )

Quadroon
25% Sub-Saharan + 75% Euro or/ Mulatto + White.

Jennifer Beals


Overlapping: From North Africans to some W. Asians.


Castizo
25% Amerindian + 75% Euro or/ Mestizo + White.




Overlapping: Turkoids/ Some Central and West Asians.

Category IV ("The Octoroons or 1/8" Least common above S. Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay).


Octooron
Around 12% (1/8 Black) + 88% Euro or more / A Quadroon + White.



Overlapping: Anywhere from North Africa, Berbers, Mid east, Europe.



Hernizo
Castizo + White (or around 88% white or more).


Mexican.


Overlapping: Southern Euro, other parts of Europe, Leventine.

[Slycooper]

On Average. The Mestizo looks whiter. It's a fact man. SSA admix lasts a lot longer. It collides with white blood a lot more than Amerindian blood.

[SilverKnight]

On Average. The Mestizo looks whiter. It's a fact man. SSA admix lasts a lot longer. It collides with white blood a lot more than Amerindian blood.

Unless there's a well documented/ supported research on that then we can say on average, but for now we're not sure. Also that SSA lasting longer is also a mystery, I seen Hernizos with evident Amerind just as Octoorons with evident SSA no double standards in this case.

SSA is a unique one as its characteristics are less "flat" more rustic, more different from the other human populations and evident reason why it might give the impression of "showing up more.

I can notice the slanted eyes in a mestizo, castizo and maybe even hernizo (rare but still) from a mile away.

[Slycooper]

Unless there's documented/ supported research on that then we can say on average, but for now we're not sure. Also that SSA lasting longer is also a mystery, I seen Hernizos with evident Amerind just as Octoorons with evident SSA no double standards in this case.

Even someone with 1/16 ssa admix will probably look somewhat off. Whilst someone with 1/16 Amerindian admix will be much harder to detect. It is always easy to tell when someone is a mullato. But there are some mestizos that can fit at least atypical somewhere in europe.

[Han Cholo]

A perfect example of a cherrypicked example. Lets compare with group peoples:

Average mestizo group (Veracruz, Mexico):


Michoacan:


Average mulatto group:




It's more than obvious. If we're going to make this serious, we have to take into account the rule instead of isolated exceptions of light people. Everyone can post cherrypicked examples.

[Slycooper]

A good example is actually me and him. We both have about the same non white admix. me 30-37% Amerindian and him 30-40% SSA. I would say I clearly look more european than him.

[Han Cholo]

A good example is actually me and him. We both have about the same non white admix. me 30-37% Amerindian and him 30-40% SSA. I would say I clearly look more european than him.

Yes, I remember some people mistaking you for Lebanese and stuff like that.

[SilverKnight]

Even someone with 1/16 ssa admix will probably look somewhat off. Whilst someone with 1/16 Amerindian admix will be much harder to detect.

Like I said, we can't say this for sure every case is different. I seen people with 1/16 SSA and they show non at all.

she's a good example

It is always easy to tell when someone is a mullato. But there are some mestizos that can fit at least atypical somewhere in europe.

This soudns more like a bag of BS or a joke then a serious statement. Mestizos are around 50%, didn't you see the example. Maybe you mean an intermidiate (see my example) around 60% Euro + 40-30% amerind maybe they could pass as more whiter but still show the amerind. I haven't seen yet a mestizo that could pass for white.

I seen mulattoes that can pass for North African (some), I overlap in N. Africa in 23andm genetically, and can pass for some of its populations not all.

A perfect example of a cherrypicked example. Lets compare with group peoples:

Average mestizo group (Veracruz, Mexico):


Average mulatto group:


It's more than obvious. If we're going to make this serious, we have to take into account the rule instead of isolated exceptions of light people. Everyone can post cherrypicked examples.

Same shit different location


Mexicans in that pic : Central Asians


Dominicans: Ethiopids, North Africans.

[pao-]

I think you chose the least representative...especially on the quarters since both the quadroon is not common and neither is the "castiza".

Gael Garcia, Rafa Marquez, Chicharito.

Harnizos are more Amerindian than Castizos. They would be the intermediate between balanced and castizos, not castizos and white.

Balanced mestiza:


Harniza:

[Slycooper]

ACtually I'm 40% SSA most people say I look mid east or North African se we're pretty much right there close, if I where 30% Euro it would be different story might look like my cousin, hazel eyes, light hair Leventine look on him.

From what I know about my Amerindian ancestry. I am 37.5% Amerindian. If you put me and you side by side. It is obvious who looks more european. While at the same time having the same amount of european ancestry.