The proof Volga Bulgarians are Slavs and Bulgarian and are not Turks

[poiuytrewq0987]

When Almis, the first Islamic Bulgarian ruler, received the Abbasid Caliphate ambassador to adopt Islam, the ambassador called Almis, Tsar of Saqaliba, Arabic for Slavs. Why did this come if Volga Bulgarians were just Turks and unrelated to us? It actually goes further to prove that the proto-Bulgarians were an amalgamation of various Slavic tribes who got conquered by the Turko-Mongols and had the Turkic language imposed on them for some time. Not really much different to how Ottoman Turkish was the language of administration in the Balkans. The proto-Bulgarians have never described themselves as anything other than Bulgarians. The early Bulgarians were of their own ethnicity and meta-ethnicity (that is until we created Slavdom with the huge educational centres in Danube Bulgaria).

[Archduke]

This proves that Bulgars were Slavicized before Asparkuh came on the Balkans.

[Hayalet]

When Almis, the first Islamic Bulgarian ruler, received the Abbasid Caliphate ambassador to adopt Islam, the ambassador called Almis, Tsar of Saqaliba, Arabic for Slavs.

His name, Almış, is glaringly Turkic, and so is his title, ilteber. It wouldn't really matter if the ambassador referred to him as such (might be because of Slavic subjects in his domains), but I'd like to see the source for that nonetheless.

[poiuytrewq0987]

His name, Almış, is glaringly Turkic, and so is his title, ilteber. It wouldn't really matter if the ambassador referred to him as such (might be because of Slavic subjects in his domains), but I'd like to see the source for that nonetheless.

So? It's no different than Danube Bulgarians carrying the name of Oktay or Mehmed.

[Yalquzaq]

İl = Country
Teber - Authority

İlteber = Ruler of a country

[Onur]

His name, Almış, is glaringly Turkic, and so is his title, ilteber.

İl = Country
Teber - Authority

İlteber = Ruler of a country

Exactly as you wrote above.

il, el = country, like the early Ottoman era name of the present day Bulgaria and Thrace, Rumeli (Rumelia as known by the Balkanites), Rum el-i, meaning the country of Rum (Romans).


As much as these so-called Bulgarians posts new messages about the Bulgars, they sink deeper in their own mud.

Btw Yalkuzaq, be careful about not dealing with these Balkanites too much, otherwise they might start to claim that Azerbaijanis was originally Bulgarians from Afghanistan mountains too

[Hoca]

So much effort for nothing. Turkic history is written in stone, can't steal it from us. Everytime Bulgar threads are reaching a climax and Thraex( and other slavs) are getting owned, the Bulgarian admin closes the thread to save their ass

[Archduke]

Onur, i'm still waiting... The four questions. Remember?

1. Why our second capital was called Preslav? The name has Slavic origin, but according to you the FBE was not Bulgarian. Explain.
2. Why the name of the son of Omurtag was Zvinica? Thats Slavic again.
3. Why Bulgars established so many cities with the name Beligrad. Today's capital of Serbia is established from Bulgars. What does Beligrad means in Turkish?
4. Why there are ruins of Bulgar frotresses when according to you Bulgars were nomadic people?

[Hoca]

4. Why there are ruins of Bulgar frotresses when according to you Bulgars were nomadic people?

Bulgars and Turkic people were not purely nomadic people. They settled when they had too. Just couple of months ago, couple of fortresses and thombes were found in Kazakhstan.

About the other points, that is not proof they were slav. Their language, writing, culture and way of life was Turkic. Those are the key points.

[ioan assen]

So much effort for nothing. Turkic history is written in stone, can't steal it from us.

Its like me saying. The Vistula Venetian history is written in stone, can't steal it from us. But what does a Bulgarian has in common with a Vistula Venetian????????????