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She should be Mrs James Smith.
She should be known as Wife and therefore Mrs.
She can use Ms if she wants
she should stay miss/ms maiden name
Wives should adopt their husband's surname
Wives should retain their maiden name, and sod future genealogists!
Doubling is nice
Doubling is pretentious
Other
Wives should earn the right to any name, by performing in the bedroom
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Cattle die, kinsmen die,
the self must also die;
but glory never dies,
For the one who is able to achieve it.
Sayings of the High One.
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The male and female member of a union should be called by their ID number-- never their first, middle and/or last names because it could provoke undesirable emotional responses.
Individual or family arranged marriages, whether religious or civil should be outlawed and replaced with state sanctioned unions based on individual merit and personality compatibility.
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I'll try to explain it. Essentially each Spainiard - presumably born in wedlock - has a doublebarreled surname, the first part being the father's paternal surname & the second part the mother's paternal surname. For example if Jose Garcia y Marquez marries Inez Fernandez y Villegas, Inez becomes Inez Garcia y Fernandez. She carries her husband's paternal surname, followed by her father's. This is the surname of the children. Their son Juan will remain Juan Garcia y Fernandez for life. His children will have different surname, Garcia y ??????, depending on their mother's surname. The daughter of Jose & Inez will pass on Garcia as the second part of her children's name, but the first part will depend on her husband's name, ????? y Garcia.
I was going to include a poll with this thread but the server was acting up just as I was posting the thread.
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I read about it in a book Spain by Salvador de Madariaga y Rojo . I met his daughter a bit ago, and she gave me her book on Catherine the Great!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish...pain:thumb001:
Russians do it, and a few other Slavs. The Lithuanians have a similar system. As did the Romans, once upon a time. It's damned useful! You know which pronoun to use of scholars when referencing their work, for instance!I once knew a couple who were Polish Canadian. The couple had just the one surname (as did the kids) which was his, but they used a masculine and a feminine form. So he and their son went by the surname Fijalkowski, and she and their daughter went by the surname Fijalkowska. I'm not sure if this is actually a Polish tradition but it sounded pretty great to me.
Names in -in become -ina. -ov > -ova, -sky > -skaya. Larina, Sharapova, Krupskaya. Names in -ich or -enko don't change (and are more Belorussian/Ukrainian), along with some other exceptions.
It pisses me off to see things like 'Madame Blavatsky' in English language writing. That charlatan Gimbutas uses the male form of her name too! That alone should warn people against her 'Kurgans vs. Old Europeans' theory for the spread of IE languages...
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Possible poll options?
Wives should adopt their husband's surname.
Wives should retain their maiden name, and sod future genealogists!
Doubling is nice in some circumstances
Doubling is pretentious
There should be flexibility, i.e. I am a wet blanket.
Other.
Dunno.
'Ms.' is okay, as are dungarees and crew-cuts on women.
Mrs. is best.
Whatever.
Que?
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Ok I have added a poll, it is a little cumbersome as there are really two questions being answered here, so it is multiple choice folks.
Cattle die, kinsmen die,
the self must also die;
but glory never dies,
For the one who is able to achieve it.
Sayings of the High One.
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Call me old fashioned, but formally I would expect to be known as
"Mrs. James Smith." I would expect things like letters, invitations, and formal introductions to be in the manner of "Mr. and Mrs. James Smith." Informally, I have a first name and I would be "Mrs. MyName Smith". If I were being introduced in an informal setting, by my husband, I would not mind him introducing me as his "wife, name." In fact, I would find it most honorable to be introduced as "this is my wife, name." Not being introduced as "wife" or "Mrs." is shameful and embarassing. It also can lead to misinterpretations, or uncertainty on the part of the person you are being introduced to. (i.e. Oh, are you his wife?)
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Anything is better than the expression so often said:"the wife"
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ASS or Broccoli Thighs(Loki likes that)
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I think doubling is nice, but ultimately it should be up to the two individuals concerned to reach a decision on what they wish to call themselves and no one else.
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