What percentage of the Italian migrants to the Americas were non-Italians?

[Sikeliot]

Back on topic now please...

Italians are Italians. Jews are Jews. Sometimes Jews pretend to be Italians, and there was a sizable unmixed population of them in the south, this is a fact. I want to how many of them migrated to the Americas?

You have no proof that there are non-Italians pretending to be such here in the US but are Jews.

If anything you are probably seeing Puerto Ricans pretending to be Italian since many of them have an Italian fetish and want nothing more than to be Italian.

[EagleAtHeart]

Of course. I wasn't saying most southern Italians are Armenoid.. only a small minority are.

BUT.. southern Italians are mostly Neolithic West Asians with about 20% Indo-European ancestry (the Northern European component).. it doesn't take Jews hiding in the population pretending to be Italian for someone there to look Jewish.

Yeah, Southern Italy may have been settled by neolithic farmers from Anatolia (who were indo-Europeans btw), but that's probably been replaced by now.

How does that make them similar to Jews?

If you want to fantasize and pretend to be Jew, go do it elsewhere please.

I only want population percentages of gypsy's and Jews in Italy during the period of 1900-1950

[Sikeliot]

Yeah, Southern Italy may have been settled by neolithic farmers from Anatolia (who were indo-Europeans btw), but that's probably been replaced by now.

It hasn't. That was, and is, most of their genetic makeup.

[EagleAtHeart]

You have no proof that there are non-Italians pretending to be such here in the US but are Jews.

If anything you are probably seeing Puerto Ricans pretending to be Italian since many of them have an Italian fetish and want nothing more than to be Italian.

There's no Puerto Ricans in Canada.

There's lots of "Russians" though. Ironically, every second "Russian" I meet in school has dark beady eyes, huge 6 shaped noses, and kinky negro hair... clearly Jews claiming to be Russian

You're also forgetting the large population of Arabreshe here - and I've NEVER met one person that called themselves such. They just go on claiming to be Italians

AND, my empirical evidence is enough to suffice. I know something is going on, a lot are actually Jews.

[Sikeliot]

Arberesh would be lighter than the average southern Italian though not darker. At least I have been told they tend to be very light. I have a cousin who is part Arberesh (surname is Paxhia, which is definitely not native Sicilian) and he is lighter than the rest of us.

[alfieb]

Answering the original question only - there is no way to know.

It also depends on one's criteria for what "Italian" is. Is a German-speaker from Alto Adige "Italian"? What of a Sicilian-speaker from Agrigento or a Catalan-speaker from Alghero?

It's all a gray area.

[EagleAtHeart]

Arberesh would be lighter than the average southern Italian though not darker.

How would you classify them? Sub-nordid?

[EagleAtHeart]

Answering the original question only - there is no way to know.

It also depends on one's criteria for what "Italian" is. Is a German-speaker from Alto Adige "Italian"? What of a Sicilian-speaker from Agrigento or a Catalan-speaker from Alghero?

It's all a gray area.

Anything mixed with European is irrelevant IMO.

I just want to know about Jews and Gypsy's, and how many migrated, if it's at all possible to estimate.

[alfieb]

No, it's probably not possible to estimate.

[Sikeliot]

Anyway why do you even care.. if they identify as Italian and that's all they know themselves as, leave it at that.