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Do you think Russian colonialism in Asia is justified? Because they experienced genocide by Mongols?
http://www.ssqq.com/travel/russia2012xrussiahistory.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruc..._Mongol_EmpireIn the movie Independence Day, the people of Earth awaken to see alien space craft hovering in the sky. The threat is so ominous that the entire world trembles in fear. We consider this story a far-fetched fantasy, but to the people of Asia and Europe, the appearance of Genghis Khan and his barbarian armies on their doorstep was the real thing. Mass murder and destruction on an unconceivable scale was about to begin.
Genghis Khan forged the initial Mongol Empire in Central Asia, starting with the unification of the central Asian confederations such as Merkits, Tartars, Mongols, and Uighurs. He then continued expansion of the Empire via invasion in what is modern-day Uzbekistan. His name quickly became synonymous with the term "barbaric".
Large areas of Islamic Central Asia and northeastern Iran were seriously depopulated. Any town that resisted the Mongols was subject to destruction. Even the slightest resistance was punished by complete annihilation. At Termez, a city on the Uzbekistan/ Afghanistan border, "all the people, both men and women, were driven out onto the plain, and divided in accordance with their usual custom, then they were all slain".
Each soldier was required to execute a certain number of persons, with the number varying according to circumstances. For example, after the conquest of Urgench, each Mongol warrior was required to execute 24 people.
The Mongols didn't stop with Asia. They kept heading west, destroying everything they came in contact with. In 1223 at the battle of Kalka, a river in the Ukraine, the Russians were beaten badly.
After that victory the Mongols forced the leaders of their captives to lie down while they built a large wooden platform over them. The Mongols then held a feast on the platform, crushing the Russians to death. They ate their meal without a problem as the men below them screamed in agony.
After they had invaded and destroyed Kievan Rus, the Golden Horde kept on going. Next up was Poland, then Hungary and many others. Over the course of three years (1237–1240), the Mongols destroyed and annihilated almost all the major cities of Eastern Europe.
Giovanni de Plano Carpini, the Pope's envoy to the Mongol Great Khan, traveled through Kiev in February 1246. He wrote:
"The Mongols attacked Rus, where they made great havoc, destroying cities and fortresses and slaughtering men; and they laid siege to Kiev, the capital of Rus; after they had besieged the city for a long time, they took it and put the inhabitants to death.
When we were journeying through that land we came across countless skulls and bones of dead men lying about on the ground. Kiev had been a very large and thickly populated town, but now it has been reduced almost to nothing, for there are at the present time scarce two hundred houses there and the inhabitants are kept in complete slavery."
Until the British Empire came along hundreds of years later, the Mongol Empire held the record for the largest Empire of all time. The Golden Horde of Genghis Khan and his successors would keep Russia subjugated for 250 years.
Since the Mongol Empire was now too large to be effectively governed from one place, it broke up into four smaller but still formidable states during the next generation. Batu Khan and his heirs were awarded the northwest corner which included the Ukraine, the valley of the Volga, and western Siberia.
They chose not to rule the Russians directly. In the forests of northern and western Europe, their mounted archers of the steppes would find both their speed and the range of their arrows reduced. This would put them at a great disadvantage against the natives. Instead, they gathered tribute.
In a move that would have far-reaching consequences, the Khan would pick one Russian prince per territory and give him a permit to claim the wealth of Russia for the Khan. If the annual collection of gold and slaves did not meet the Khan's demands, the Mongols would raid the offenders to show they meant business.
The Russian Prince often grew to become as brutal and ruthless as the Mongols he served. He resorted to violence without hesitation while doing his collecting. Under this system the Russians learned a lot about tyranny, brutality, and inhumanity in general. These traits would appear in the types of governments they would establish in the future. This led to the system that turned the serfs into slaves.
Before the arrival of the Mongols in 1240, the Russians were generally a friendly, trusting people; unfortunately, in the opinion of some, those traits do not characterize the Russians who have lived since then.
It could be argued that the Mongol Invasion was the most important event in the development of Russia since the appearance of the Varangians. In a bizarre turn of events, the 250 years of Mongol domination actually paved the path which would allow this subjugated land to one day become the mighty Russian Empire.
Historians regard the Mongol raids and invasions as some of the deadliest conflicts in human history up through that period. Brian Landers has offered that, "One empire in particular exceeded any that had gone before, and crossed from Asia into Europe in an orgy of violence and destruction. The Mongols brought terror to Europe on a scale not seen again until the twentieth century."[2] Diana Lary contends that the Mongol invasions induced population displacement "on a scale never seen before," particularly in Central Asia and eastern Europe. She adds, "the impending arrival of the Mongol hordes spread terror and panic."[3]About half the population of Russia may have died during the Mongol invasion of Rus.[9]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altaic
tatarian man who worked for the golden horde
So i came to the idea making this thread, note its only about colonialism of russias asian parts inhabited by altaic and turkic people who colonialized russia or helped to colonialize them in the past.
It was cruel genocide but unlike the holocaust we havent any real images or videos so i will post some conan clips instead
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Originally Posted by Yabgu
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