Do you think Russian colonialism in Asia is justified? Because they experienced genocide by Mongols?

[Sarmatian]

Theorisation of occupation,We've seen hundreds of ways of this in this kind of forums.
Don't fool yourself,occupation is occupation,nothing would change this.

What occupation are you talking about? Occupation is forceful take over lands owned by others. But Siberia is scarcely populated place even today. At the time of Russian expansion one could travel in taiga for weeks and meet no local people at all.

There were a few backward states that would better be described as tribal confederations. But they held minor part of territories and in fact got to keep all of their territories as there was more than enough space for Russians to be on their own business. I don't see any Mohican or Iroquois state on USA map but I see a lot of native ethnic oblasts and republics on the map of Russian Federation.

I do not agree with OP as we don't have to justify expansion to the stateless territories.

[RussiaPrussia]

How is thinking this thread is lame, bashing Russia?

I have nothing against Russians, but I do not think Russian colonisation of Asia is justified.

but you agree with turks who have no justification whats so ever coming into byzantine land? And driving out and slaughtering its native people?

Its a whole difference imo.

And norway also stole land from sami people obviously without any justification.

[Pallantides]

And norway also stole land from sami people obviously without any justification.

I agree, there was no justification for that or the later forced Norweginization of Saami and Finns.

[Qemist]

How is thinking this thread is lame, bashing Russia?

I have nothing against Russians, but I do not think Russian colonisation of Asia is justified.

What is wrong with colonisation? If a land is unpopulated, why not colonize it? it is the conquest which is more dubious morally.

[Anglojew]

Many Russians are part-Mongol so really it's justified. Law of the steppes. My prediction is China takes over Siberia soon anyway.

[RussiaPrussia]

Many Russians are part-Mongol so really it's justified. Law of the steppes. My prediction is China takes over Siberia soon anyway.

how ? they make less children than russians, their birthrate is something like 12/1000, russian far east is 14/1000 in siberia its 15/1000, they constantly aging. They have demographics problems of their own.

[Sarmatian]

Many Russians are part-Mongol so really it's justified.

Very common mistake. In fact ethnic Russians are least mixed Europeans of them all.

My prediction is China takes over Siberia soon anyway.

Highly doubt it. Too cold for them Chinese and they can't drink vodka like Russians to make up for it

[Accountant]

Very common mistake. In fact ethnic Russians are least mixed Europeans of them all.

This is even bigger mistake.

[Legion]

If it wasn't Russia, another power would take over. Would China be so much better?

Current tribes weren't the first to settle in their respective areas. No reason for them to be the last.

[Qemist]

Very common mistake. In fact ethnic Russians are least mixed Europeans of them all.

I don't know about the last part but I agree there was little Mongol introgression into the Russian genome. The cultural impact was greater.