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    Quote Originally Posted by Malta1066Falzon View Post
    Nationalism will keep most East Euro countries protected from multiculturalism.
    I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    I hope.
    Lets all hope it for our brothers.

    In central europe also extreme nationalists exist, but the problem here is that the average person doesnt like them at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    I hope.
    its the poverty of Bosnia, Serbia, Poland and so on which saves them from the multiculturalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acquisitor View Post
    its the poverty of Bosnia, Serbia, Poland and so on which saves them from the multiculturalism.
    Better to live in poverty than to be slaves of Jews and their private banks which creates debt. Worse than poverty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acquisitor View Post
    The way I see it: nationalism (not to be confused with patriotism) is a trait which is typical for mostly poor people (in this cases countries, since clearly all East European countries are poor, let's not fool ourselves here). In my opinion nationalism is a psychological defense mechanism against the reality, in this case reality being that Eastern Europe is WAY less developed than Western Europe. In this particular answer nationalism being a defense mechanism is particularly obvious in the last sentence "Slavs are not West, we are not dead yet".

    So what's the reason for East European nationalism, is it really self deceit ? "we are poor, we are way less developed, but if we keep telling each how great we all are, we will feel better about ourselves despite of our countries being underdeveloped and poor" ?
    I agree to an extend. Eastern European nationalism (however I dont like treating all countries the same, with various histories and politics) is in general not directed at western European countries. It is directed at neighbours, 'old' enemies, minorities. In Poland nationalists dont care about France or holland, I think they never think of it even, they would be rather anti: German, Russian, Ukrainian, Jewish, or in some more exotic cases, racist or anti-muslim. I think Serbian dont care about Germans, but they would think about (put what suits). Ukrainian nationalists are very anti-Russian, andi-Semitic and often anti-Polish.
    As you can see this nationalism often divides 'eastern europe' and is focused around own backyard more than distant land of western Europe.

    I agree with another part, that nationalisms usually come from some kind of deprivation, however nationalism is present in rich countries too, there are many in France, England or Germany, which would suggest that people with those tendencies are rather deprived in their private life than they are driven by 'national' inferiority complexes. In fact in this scenario one could justify Eastern euro nationalism more, as a poorer area and wonder why nationalism in western Europe? Are they ashamed f their countries even more? Jealous? but their countries are rich, the richest. why the hate then?

    I believe its personal circumstances. Inferiority complexes are of course present in eastern European countries, rooted in being poorer and more backwards, but I dont think it drives nationalism really. It rather drives mega cosmopolitan attitudes. The people who I noticed to have a lot of complexes towards 'the west' are people who are very loudly pro-europan, self-haters in denial, multi-culti fanatics, very pro-gay, pro-ecology, anti-religious pro- modernism anti-tradition people, just holier than though. Like me hahahaha. No i am not, I know I may come over sometimes as such but I am not.
    Nationalists are usually quite opposite to that and I think most of them really believe their nation is best or at least good. Maybe when they get involved deeper and for instance learn not everything is that perfect they live partially in denial, but I think it is a side issue.

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    Because easterns know they must defend their countries and keep foreigners who would steal their beuatiful homelands out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acquisitor View Post
    its the poverty of Bosnia, Serbia, Poland and so on which saves them from the multiculturalism.
    Still better than having Asian restaurants around instead of our own. I'd have 1 Euro pljeskavica any time instead of some Indian or Chinese shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minesweeper View Post
    Still better than having Asian restaurants around instead of our own. I'd have 1 Euro pljeskavica any time instead of some Indian or Chinese shit.
    as much as I'm against multiculturalism, I must say "what's wrong with food variation" ?What's wrong with having sushi or something Chinese occasionally ?

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    I'm gonna say just four words, Western Europeans are doomed.

    In my country most young people are dreaming about escaping to West, but they don't realize that there's no purpose to migrate because it's just matter of time when West is gonna collapse.

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    We are nationalists because we have very rich history, we are old nations, we have our own cultures, we have fought for our land for thousands of years, we have spilled our blood on that land for thousands of years, and we have gone through many wars and even slavery and unlike Western Europe, we were the ones who had to defend against the Muslims for hundreds of years while Western Europe was developing.
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