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    I propose in this thread to consider such a phenomenon as the Russian political satire, mainly the part devoted to the relations "Russia and Europe", "Russia and the Western world".
    First: "What should be a Russia that its image in the European mass media has turned into a positive. Sci-Fi hypothesis". Maybe not quite fit the definition of "satire", but still pretty funny text (I warn you in advance, my English is not very good, so the translation is obtained with the Yandex-translation, if something is obviously wrong translated, then let the experienced comrades corrected)

    Vitaly Tretyakov, at a conference in Berlin:
    Theme: "What should be a Russia that its image in the European mass media has turned into a positive. Sci-Fi hypothesis".
    Adoption of the 1st (and supported by others): the image of Russia in the European media for the most part negative.
    Adoption of the 2nd (and with this many people would agree): images of almost all foreign countries in the Russian mass-media or just a positive or mostly positive.
    Hypothesis: it is Impossible to ensure that the image of Russia in the majority of European countries (Western and some Eastern European) became positive.
    I will try to prove this hypothesis by contradiction. What should Russia do to its image in the European media was positive? Apparently, something that will be seen positively by the European media.
    After going through this list, which includes few tens of my points, but I'm limited to about a dozen.

    1. Recognize that the Russian history is primarily a criminal and has a history of oppression of other peoples and countries.
    2. Recognize that of all the existing empires in general quite good, the Russian Empire is the most disgusting, and the Soviet Union - the worst in human history.
    3. Recognize that the best (not much better), which is in Russia, borrowed from the West, and the worst (which predominates) are the genetic characteristics and traits of the Russian people and Russia as a whole.
    4. Recognize that Russia is subEurope, and the Russian people are subeuropeans. And in order for Russia to become a real Europe, and the Russians - real Europeans, they need a long time to learn from textbooks written in Europe, and always take exams European teachers. However, the chance of success is still very small.
    5. Recognize that all the leaders of the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union and the Russian state in general are maniacs and criminals, and especially Ivan the Terrible, Peter the Great, Catherine the Great, Lenin and Stalin. However, all the others are no better. The only exception is Mikhail Gorbachev.
    6. Russia must be overthrown or send in the resignation of President Putin.
    7. Recognize that in the Second World War the victory over Hitler won the armies of the US and the UK, some with the active participation of the French and the Poles. Soviet Russia was somewhere far away in the East of the battles with the Nazi troops, but those were local fighting.
    8. Recognize that namely the Soviet Union conducted its first nuclear bomb foreign cities, but the Russians so cleverly hid the traces of this crime, that till now there is no possibility to find them. But sooner or later it will be done.
    9. Russian Orthodox Church is one of the most reactionary religious associations in the world and it should be completely excluded from any participation in public and political life of Russia.
    10. Recognize that the Comintern is certainly a criminal organization, which sought to establish the Communist regimes in many countries of the world. While the current exactly according to the methods of the Comintern Liberal international, establishing democratic regimes in many countries of the world, there is a civilized and very useful organization, the decisions of which must conform to the governments of all countries.
    11. Gas to the countries of the European Union, Russia agrees to sell to the conditions of the European Union.
    12. Russia should give up any of their own policies in the former Soviet space. All the more unacceptable protection of Russia the rights of Russians outside the Russian Federation.
    13. In general, its domestic and foreign policy, Russia should negotiate with the EU and the U.S., but rather just be under their supervision and direction.
    14. As the sins and crimes of conscience Russia a lot, then it would be good to take on and the crimes that she probably did not commit, as it will be nice to some other countries. For example, because many people in Poland would have been nice if Russia killed President Kaczynski, Russia could admit it - for the sake of European harmony and tranquility.
    15. The Russians should not drink vodka but Georgian wine; released from prison Pussy rayot and and all the others, who say the West; regularly hold gay parades, to allow same-sex marriages, to make Siberia-European heritage (and so many more items). In general, it would be good to be the next president of Russia was gay.

    So, pausing on this point, let's ask ourselves the question: if all of this, that wants from her "Europe" and the West, Russia will make is whether the image of Russia in the European media positive?
    The obvious answer is: no! Because in this case will be quite clear that nothing more hideous and criminal on the European continent, than Russia, no.
    My hypothesis is proved.
    Thank you for your attention!

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    Russia doesnt need Europe but Europe needs Russia.

    because


    1. asia
    Europe is not important anymore but russia is bordering and close to countries like china, south korea, japan and other parts of asia.

    2. resources
    Europe has no resources, america has now even more resources than europe. Everything europe needs is from non EU countries like norway, russia and middle east.

    3. 143 million people
    Germany and russia alone would have 220 million people plus france and it would 3 countries having almost 300 million people. Now compare that to Eurozone having 17 countries having only 332 million people. What is easier to integrate?

    4. economy
    Russias economy is bigger than all other former communist european countries together.

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    It's a pretty decent summary of issues that cause major "butthurt" among Soviet imperialists. I'm surprised the Baltic states and the bronze soldier haven't been mentioned.

    Tretyakov's more serious claims are perhaps more amusing, because it's unclear whether he's subtly mocking the situation or really thinks this way. For example:
    «От советской системы по собственному выбору и желанию Россия перешла к новому этапу своего развития — строительству одновременно демократического, свободного (суверенного) и справедливого общества и государства. И они, российское общество и государство, сами будут определять сроки, этапы, условия и формы этого развития.
    Translation: from the Soviet system, following its own choice and desire, Russia transitioned into a new stage of its development. It is now building a state and a society that is simultaneously democratic, free (sovereign), and just. The Russian society and the Russian state will decide the periods, the stages, the conditions, and the forms of this development.

    I really like how he suddenly re-interprets "free society" (which has the same well-defined meaning in Russian as in English, namely individual freedom) as "sovereign".
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    Attempt to translate the article of the great Sharansky. Many of the parts can be understood only by Russians. But the main message, I think, is clear

    Dreams of Сreakliya.

    All is well In Сreakliya [name of the fictional country formed from the word "creative", has a disdainful tone]. The country is small, forever get rid of the old imperialism and aggressive chauvinism. Now Сreakliya is not occupying neighboring countries and friendly with them. Сreakliya long ago repented for old sins, paid the compensation and restore historical justice - territory is transferred to its former colonies. Double the amount paid preferences for the Holocaust, the Holodomor, Katyn and the genocide of Indians.



    Сreakliya with trembling respects human rights, zealously defends the ideals of freedom, obeys the values of democracy ​​and forever has made a Euro-Atlantic choice. This country strictly monitors the compliance with the protection of the tears of the child ["Even the happiness of the world is not worth a single tear on the cheek of an innocent child" quote from Dostoevsky], gays and child-lovers. Human values was rendered absolute, and local courts have always listen to the opinion of progressive mankind, Sting and Björk. Simplified judicial procedure for the convenience of the citizens. Instead of a bloated apparatus, liberal troikas [draws a parallel with the troika of the NKVD] successfully carried out the good and positive lustration.

    Сreakliya is a peaceful country, so long ago got rid of any weapons, especially nuclear weapons, because it is a threat to the world. Blown up by the military factories with hazardous industries. Terminated the arms trade - because it leads to an increase in tension in the world. On the main square of the country - Blue Square [in Russian "blue" is synonym "gay"] now not rumbling tanks, and do not interfere with their noise to the Creaklians, and not break the pavement. The army disbanded because not fight with anyone. Make love, not war - instead of military parades on the Blue Square are colorful and vibrant gay parades.

    Homophobia in Сreakliya finally is defeated. Prohibited propaganda homophobia, and many gay, lesbian, transgender, pansexuals, asexuals, mtf transsexuals, intersexuals, genderqueers, dykes, butchs and femmes finally got their long-awaited law. Now they can enter into marriages, adopt children. LGBT-parents are allowed to change the sex of the child at the age of seven. Naturally this is not the choice of the parents but the child because he grows a free and independent person in a free country.

    In Сreakliya, finally is defeated corruption and PC&T [The party of crooks and thieves - so among the opposition, with the filing of Navalny called the ruling party "United Russia"]. American lobbyists have taught local Creaklians how to avoid corrupt activity and now they are putting high ranking by Freedom House and Amnesty International. Are proud to show their blogs blogger Adgamov and independent analyst Naganoff. Сreakliya also got rid of Putin's NATO base in Ulyanovsk, because now Ulyanovsk not belong to this country.

    In Сreakliya is defeated medieval superstition and savagery of the ROC. Now officially approved religions are Jehovah's Witnesses, Scientology, Aum Shinrikyo and the Hare Krishnas. Orthodox churches were blown up, in place of which build a comfortable house of prayer. All respect their pastors and reverend fathers. This is not scamp in cassocks, but respected people from America or South Korea.

    Niello and cattle misunderstands basic principle of democracy. Democracy - it is the power of the majority. Democracy - is the power of a qualified majority. Even if a qualified majority is a three percent of the population. In Сreakliya the problem is solved. Yokels from the Uralvagonzavod and Permian turners disenfranchised and forced to work for the benefit of the country in numerous mansions, estates, plantations and Camps of Freedom.

    In Сreakliya, finally realized that the best people in the country - is intellectuals from Brighton Beach, which cast out mode. The intellectuals and the nobility returned to Сreakliya and received the deserved estates and titles gauleiters and burgomasters. Returned noble titles and rights. Glory to Bonner [human rights activist, dissident, the wife of the academician And. Sakharov] real culture and civilization returned to Сreakliya.

    Сreakliya can not exist without a final and irrevocable de-Stalinization. This country Drop by drop squeezes the slave out of ourselves ["Drop by drop squeeze the slave out of ourselves" quote from Chekhov]. Prohibited by law, any mention of Stalin. Disobedient immediately sent to Camp of Freedom. Lustrating were not only members of the Bolshevik Party, and former members of the Komsomol, the pioneers and Little Octobrist. "The fact that you have not lustrated - it's not your merit. It's our fault"- like to joke in the Committee on Gay Security [in Russian abbreviation "Committee on Gay Security" looks like the KGB].

    Deliverance is near. The fall of the regime is inevitable. Every opposition retweet and repost makes closer Сreakliya. Where all will be well. Oh life would start. After all, one must live without lies [quote from Solzhenitsyn]. For our freedom and yours. In the sky Bonner on earth Haykin [fictional colleague Sharansky], in the water the Sixth Fleet. In Lenta.ru Soult, and in the "Novaya Gazeta" Elena Kostyuchenko. we are here power. So we will win.

    Sincerely, Leo Sharansky.
    Current Location: NY, Brighton Beach
    Current Music: Willie Tokarev - New York to Moscow

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    It's a pretty decent summary of issues that cause major "butthurt" among Soviet imperialists. I'm surprised the Baltic states and the bronze soldier haven't been mentioned.
    I can say that the awareness of possibility recognition of these points in the future, does not cause so-called butthurt in only less than 10% of our people and among those from the remaining over 90% who categorically do not believe in the possibility of such a perspective.
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