Do you think Greece and Finland are culturally more eastern european countries?

[Hochmeister]

Greece is Southern Europe.
Finland is Northern Europe.

[arcticwolf]

I don't really give a fuck to be honest. This important problem on my list of priorities is on a back burner. But gents please carry on.

[RussiaPrussia]

Greece is Southern Europe.
Finland is Northern Europe.

then you could argue that karelia, saint petersburg and many parts of russia are all northern too.

And you could argue that albania and other balkans are also southern european

[Äike]

Finland and Greece are veeeery different.

Finland has been part of the West since the 13th century. While Greece has always been Eastern, with its Orthodox faith and so on.

Finland isn't Eastern-European in any way. The fact that they are Finnic people, just makes them even more native Northern-Europeans than the Scandinavians.

[RussiaPrussia]

Finland and Greece are veeeery different.

Finland has been part of the West since the 13th century. While Greece has always been Eastern, with its Orthodox faith and so on.

Finland isn't Eastern-European in any way. The fact that they are Finnic people, just makes them even more native Northern-Europeans than the Scandinavians.

uralic language family isnt even indo european but an own family no way they are northern european.

[alfieb]

The fact that they are Finnic people, just makes them even more native Northern-Europeans than the Scandinavians.

North Eurasian.

[riverman]

It also depends on where you're perspective is from too, those of us with a lot of Isles ancestry view things from a further west perspective, I think, than say some Baltic or finnish people might, but, the argument goes to where Europe ends in the east, also, then you could just go from Ireland to some place in Siberia, and divide it into thirds.

[Hochmeister]

then you could argue that karelia, saint petersburg and many parts of russia are all northern too.

I don't know about Karelia. That's a backward region to me. But St Petersburg and its outskirts are the lands of Ingerlandmand. This city has a very specific culture. I think that's kinda Northern Europe or Baltica (with Estonia and Latvia) at least.

And you could argue that albania and other balkans are also southern european

Nope, they are Eastern Europe, politically speaking. It's better to distinguish East Europe and Balkans.

[RussiaPrussia]

I don't know about Karelia. That's a backward region to me. But St Petersburg and its outskirts are the lands of Ingerlandmand. This city has a very specific culture. I think that's kinda Northern Europe or Baltica (with Estonia and Latvia) at least.



Nope, they are Eastern Europe, politically speaking. It's better to distinguish East Europe and Balkans.

politically speaking? How you think the situation were when greece got independent from turkey? It wasnt viewed anyway different than any balkan country at the time by the west. This is what i trying to say here.

[Queen B]

i think yes and let me explain it why. In my opnion the whole idea of splitting eastern europe apart and putting it into middle europe, northern and southern europe was always silly for me. Because eastern europe is and will always be a term thats fits the post communist countries. Of course you can categorize them on geographics but culturally eastern european countries will always be eastern eruopean because of their communist background. All the countries share the same situation.

You do know that Greece wasn't under communism right?

I mean think about it? same countries, same past, maybe same culture but didnt chose communism this is the only difference for greece, cypruss and finland. And now its all forgotten?

You are wrong to that.
If the categorization is not about geography, Greece doesn't share much with the REST of eastern country.
Culturally and historically Greece shares more with South, and Balkans.
Not all Balkans are the same with all Eastern countries and I don't find myself sharing anything similar with Ukraine, or Poland, or Romania.

Although Greece is said to be the birthplace of Western civilization, today's Greece has more in common culturally and religiously with Russia, Serbia, Bulgaria, etc. than anywhere else.

Except religion, there is nothing culturally same with Greeks and Russians