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    Default The Assyrian Genocide

    I post this in the Turkish section since it happened on Ottoman soil. I'd like to hear your views on this, since it is an event I do not know much about - I randomly stumbled upon it whilst browsing Wikipedia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_Genocide

    The Assyrian Genocide (also known as Sayfo or Seyfo, Syriac: ܩܛܠܐ ܕܥܡܐ ܣܘܪܝܝܐ or ܣܝܦܐ) refers to the mass slaughter of the Assyrian population of the Ottoman Empire during the 1890s, the First World War, and the period of 1922-1925. The Assyrian population of upper Mesopotamia (the Tur Abdin region, the Hakkari, Van, and Siirt provinces of present-day southeastern Turkey, and the Urmia region of northwestern Iran) was forcibly relocated and massacred by Ottoman (Turkish) and Kurdish forces between 1914 and 1920. Estimates on the overall death toll have varied. Contemporary reports placed the figure at 250,000. Numerous scholars and journalists have accepted that figure, though some sources lacking a detailed statistical analysis claim figures as high as 750,000.

    The Assyrian genocide took place in the same context as the Armenian and Pontic Greek genocides. In these events, close to three million Christians of Syriac, Armenian or Greek Orthodox denomination were murdered by the Young Turks regime

    Since the "Assyrian genocide" took place within the context of the much more widespread Armenian genocide, scholarship treating it as a separate event is scarce, with the exceptions of the works of David Gaunt and Hannibal Travis. In 2007, the International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS) reached a consensus that "the Ottoman campaign against Christian minorities of the Empire between 1914 and 1923 constituted a genocide against Armenians, Assyrians, and Pontian and Anatolian Greeks. The IAGS referred to the work of Gaunt and Travis in passing this resolution. Gregory Stanton, the President of the IAGS in 2007-2008 and the founder of Genocide Watch, endorsed the "repudiation by the world's leading genocide scholars of the Turkish government's ninety-year denial of the Ottoman Empire's genocides against its Christian populations, including Assyrians, Greeks, and Armenians."


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    Assyrian Genocide is also fabricated by ermenians to find more supporter to their so-called genocide. Assyrians here in Turkey are a small minority group living in the eastern Turkey mostly and not many people even know about them.

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    Here is something about that, a Turkish painter of Assyrian origin called Eser Afacan, who lives in Norway answers the lie of Assyrian genocide(Özdemir İnce narrates from him):

    http://translate.google.com.tr/trans...85.asp%3Fm%3D1

    If I should sum it up, Eser Afacan says....

    1.There are many Kurds who say that they are Assyrians because they want to get a boarding licence. Scandinavian countries give Assyrians boarding licence rather easily.

    2.Assyrians never had such a complain until today(of course he talks for himself and other Turkish Assyrians).

    3.There was a rebellion and Ottoman government suppressed it rightfully, the case is that...
    Quote Originally Posted by Yabgu View Post
    There is no ethnicity called "Anatolian", and no such thing as "Anatolian Greek genes" or "Armenoid genes".. It is a political rhetoric to cause identity erosion.. Eastern Huns are considered to be the ancestors of modern day Turks and they were a hybrid of Asiatic and Caucasian, but more dominantly Caucasian.. Hun was not an ethnicity itself, but a large tribal confederative structure.. That is why Turks already had a rich genetic pool before the full conquest of Anatolia region..

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    I wonder when killings qualify for genocide status. I mean, World War I & II ... many nations suffered incredibly. How many of them were genocides?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I wonder when killings qualify for genocide status. I mean, World War I & II ... many nations suffered incredibly. How many of them were genocides?
    Genocide is political tool. For example, France did very ugly things during the occupation of Algeria, but they don't call that genocide neither do they recognize it. The same country has a big mouth towards Turkey. When France get confronted with their history they say they shouldn't blame modern-day France for what their ancestors did. Their double-standard is stomach turning.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...escalates.html

    If France wants to lecture others, they should first look at their own history.

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    France has a strong and influential Armenian lobby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adsız View Post
    Assyrian Genocide is also fabricated by ermenians to find more supporter to their so-called genocide. .
    Actually most of armenians are not aware of "Assyrian Genocide". They used to teach in armenian schools that armenians and greeks were massacared by turks in 1915,but never heard that they teached about assyrian genocide, a lots of nations have suffered in ottoman empire from yemen to balkans.
    Armenia still doesnt recognize assyrian genocide, i remember one of armenian historians said once that they need more evidence of what they have experienced in ww1 to recognize,as we dont mind recognizing any genocide such as rwandian genocide,jewish holocaust....etc as long as we have enough evidence.Also if you watch assyrian websites,they always curse and badmouth armenians for not recognizing their genocide as they claim.
    "Why Armenia doesn´t recognize Assyrian Genocide?" http://www.assyrianvoice.net/forum/i...?topic=38418.0

    Scholars Urge Armenia to Officially Recognize Assyrian Genocide http://www.assyrianvoice.net/forum/i...?topic=41964.0

    Armenia Must Recognize the Assyrian Genocide http://www.aina.org/releases/20120415151901.htm


    So shut up,and stop blaming armenians on everything.
    We dont care about turks and assyrians and their relation with each other in past,present or future.
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    Thumbs up Natalie Portman, Leonardo Di Caprio and Al Pacino to cast in movies about ‘Armenian genocide’.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I wonder when killings qualify for genocide status. I mean, World War I & II ...
    Maybe you can try to understand in this movie
    http://ann.az/en/?p=117915

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artavazt View Post
    Maybe you can try to understand in this movie
    http://ann.az/en/?p=117915
    Of course, if Hollywood supports it, it must be true.

    Btw I find it quite sad that supporters of one 'genocide' do not want to recognize others. They want exclusivity ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I wonder when killings qualify for genocide status. I mean, World War I & II ... many nations suffered incredibly. How many of them were genocides?
    all of them imo

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