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    Quote Originally Posted by adsız View Post
    Ask yourself this: Why would Turks wait for more than 600 years they ruled to exterminate some nations if they really wanted to do so? Why did they not do it when they were the only super power of the world ?
    Because for 600 years were an empire, an empire with no ethnicity.. They need to be a strong and as numerous they could.
    They prefered to use the different ethnicities and Islamize them.
    Now they are a country, and an ethnicity. Whoever didn't turn-Muslim (now the so-called proud Turks), is a thread and was a threat to the country.

    Last but not least, different periods of times, different leaders. Germans also didn't exterminate Jews up until WW2, that doesn't prove anything, does it?

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    Syrian christians are among the dozens of different communities who suffered because of the destruction of Ottoman Empire after WW-1. They were living close to our Syrian border b4 WW-1 (ofc there was no Syria and no borders in those days) and when the war and Armenian uprising started, they have immigrated to the south, into today`s Syria. They escaped to the south because of Armenian uprising and the terror it caused during WW-1 days.


    The so-called "Assyrian genocide" is a fabricated political concept created by the Armenian and Greek diasporas in Europe and USA. This Assyrian genocide story is created roughly a decade ago or two by the collaboration of some members of Assyrian Arab christian diaspora communities. Most of the Assyrian in Syria and Turkey doesn't even know what is "Assyrian genocide" and probably most of them never heard such a thing before.

    Greek and Armenian states supports this idea and they push together for the recognition of the so-called genocides. You can see promotional posters of a congress here, organized by the Greek state in the old parliament building in Athens in 2008 and 2010;
    International Conference «Three Genocides, One Strategy»



    A first systematic attempt in Greece for scientific registration and analysis of the genocide, which was initially perpetrated the Ottomans and then by the Turkish, on the Christian populations of the East was the 2-day international conference “Three Genocides, One Strategy”. The proceedings of the conference ended on Sunday noon at the Old Parliament Hall.

    The decision of the World Academic Union to perform a study on the Genocide on December 2007, in Sarajevo triggered the claim for collective memory towards the slaughtered Armenians and Greeks of Pontus, Minor Asia and the Assyrians and the crime inflicted on the three nations of the East was recognized as “Genocide”.

    A few months later in Komotini, the first attempt at a broad discussion of the issue took place in Greece through the organization of an international workshop. In spring 2010, the recognition of the three genocides followed, by the parliament of Sweden, “a country”, as it was noted by the Chairman of the Organizing Committeee of the Conference, Antonis Pavlidis, “which strongly supports the European perspective of Turkey, a fact which brings the latter to a dead end, not allowing any room for political expediency, as usual”.

    The leader in this struggle was the Swedish MP, of Greek origin, Nikos Papadopoulos, who spoke at the Conference, submitting his proposals for further action, so that the Genocides will be recognized. Mr. Papadopoulos suggested the establishment of an International Greek Committee for the recognition of the Three Genocides and stressed the need to form strong lobbies, as well as the dissemination and exchange of information and scientific data through online communication with universities, institutes, forums and groups. As he said “we are not governed by feelings of hatred. The issue regarding the recognition of the genocides is a matter of Justice. When Willy Brandt raised the great issue of the Holocaust, he provided a new dimension to the relations between the states”.

    During his speech, the director of the Museum of the Holocaust in Jerusalem, Israel Charny, noted that “as in the case of the recognition of the genocide of the Armenians, for which we gave a long and tough struggle, which was successful, there are those who deny those who had the same fate – the Assyrians, the Greeks, the Yazidis and some Kurds. He said that researchers report 2.3 million in total, who are victims of genocide by the Turkish, along with 1-1.5 million Armenians. Concluding, he suggested the establishment of an international Organization on the Right to Life of all these nations, in which nations-victims of genocide and those who take action to ensure the right to life will be involved.

    The well known writer and historian, Tea Halo, analyzed the role of Germany in the specific period and the utter indifference of King Constantinos at the time for what was happening to the Greeks of the East.

    The President of the European Federation of Armenians, Ms. Hilda Tchoboian, recorded the stance of the European Union on the issue of recognition of the Genocides as well as the obstacles that the EU places in the resolutions of the European Parliament.



    http://en.sae.gr/?id=20546&tag=Inter...Strategy%C2%BB
    The struggle for the recognition of any genocide is the most important fight
    that a man can give. For, it is not only a matter of the Greeks, the Armenians, the
    Assyrians or any other people.

    All the governments have a duty to recognize the crime, proving their human
    dignity. They have to prove that they are not vaguely interested in the human
    rights, but they actually recognize the fundamental rights of humanity.

    On behalf of the Organizing Committee
    Dr PAVLIDIS ANTONIS
    Historian
    President of the Pan-Hellenic Association

    http://beta.genocidepreventionnow.or..._Genocides.pdf
    If we put history aside, it appears like some of these Arabian christians became a tool for the Greco-Armenian genocide lobbies today. They organize these conferences in the old parliament building in Athens and it says that their previous conference was in Komotini/Gümülcine, western Thrace where %60 of all population in that area are Turkish. I believe they purposely choose these locations to agitate Turkish people in there.


    There are many inconsistencies in the article above, like both Armenians and Syriac christians claims that both Kurds and Turks killed the christians but in this article, it says that the Turks also commit genocide upon Kurds and Yazidis(a Kurdish tribe)!!! and their numbers are exorbitantly exaggerated to ridicules levels!!! According to them, we killed 2.3 million people in Anatolia!!!! This is something impossible because their total population wasn't even 2.3 million back in 1910s.

    Everything they claim are beyond ridicules but most idiotic one is "genocide of Greeks"!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandelion View Post
    They prefered to use the different ethnicities and Islamize them.
    Are you a Muslim ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onur View Post
    If we put history aside, it appears like some of these Arabian christians became a tool for the Greco-Armenian lobbies today. They organize these conferences in the old parliament building in Athens and it says that their previous conference was in Komotini/Gümülcine, western Thrace where %60 of all population in that area are Turkish. I believe they purposely choose these locations to agitate Turkish people in there.
    The stupidity of this post is unlimited.
    First, the Muslim comunity is 28.8% of the total population in Thrace. The only place were Muslims are the majority is Rodope (51,77%)
    Out of the Muslim minority, about half of them are Ethnic Turks, and the rest being Pomaks (35%) and Roma (15%)
    Everything they claim are beyond ridicules but most idiotic one is "genocide of Greeks"!!!
    What is beyong stupidity is posts like your own.
    Quote Originally Posted by adsız View Post
    Are you a Muslim ?
    I am an atheist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandelion View Post

    I am an atheist.
    I am sure you got my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adsız View Post
    I am sure you got my point.
    You have absolutely no point, adsiz.
    The fact that you Islamized many Balkan people, in the side way (aka putting devastating taxes, or even different justic system) and that you absorbed many Balkanese as Muslims by default ( Christian and Muslim offspiring -> Muslim) doesn't mean anything, and doesn't mean that all Balkan population was Islamized.That doesn't mean that they aren't many converts or Balkanese nowdays, who are of Greek,Bulgarian,Serbian, or whatever ancestry.
    There are people that PAYED the heavy taxation, there are people that left their fortunes to the Ottomans because they couldn't handle the heave taxes,etc.

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    Many Christians prefered to live under the Ottomans compared to the Pope who would massacre people who opposed his religious views.

    Turkey was in that sense, the first people in history who alowed freedom of religion. Of course there were some shortcomings but you have to look not from today's perspective but from the perspective of that time.

    It is easy to talk now but all historians know that when talking about history you have to look from the perspective of that age.
    If we really wanted to convert people, we could have used Spanish and British colonial "ways of doing things" and we all know the end result. There would be less people complaining. That is for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoca View Post
    It is easy to talk now but all historians know that when talking about history you have to look from the perspective of that age.
    You should remember it next time you talk about Greek matters, too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qutuzistan View Post
    Really? Source? Funny you saying that, considering the majority of Armenian combatants look like towel-head bastards and shitty warriors. I doubt any baloochis were present to fight in Armenia. So really, drop your hostile "I'm a condescending Patriotc angry Armenoid, ready to stab you with my nose" pose, it only makes you look pathetic.
    I do not know what is baloochi but the shit which was invited by Azeris looked exactly similar to your avatar. And there is a lot of information in internet, just use your brain and search. It's not that difficult.

    For example American “Washington Profile” wrote that as early as in the late 80s’ the network Al Qaeda opened a cell in Baku and supported Azerbaijan in the war against Mountainous Karabagh. For the purpose of participating in the Karabagh war 1500 mojaheds arrived in Azerbaijan in September of 1993. In the summer of 1994 their number reached 2500.

    So really, drop your hostile "I'm a condescending angry towel-head shit-face, ready to break wind" pose, it only makes you look pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qutuzistan View Post
    Really? Source? Funny you saying that, considering the majority of Armenian combatants look like towel-head bastards and shitty warriors. I doubt any baloochis were present to fight in Armenia. So really, drop your hostile "I'm a condescending Patriotc angry Armenoid, ready to stab you with my nose" pose, it only makes you look pathetic.
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