What meta-ethnicity are Armenians?

[Musso]

Somebody has problems with the truth.

I have problems with trolls.

[American_Hispanist]

Armenic. Armenians have their own look.

[Hoca]

I have problems with trolls.

No, I don't think that.

[Loki]

Hard to say which meta-ethnicty Armenians are. Armenians are closest to Kurds but also have some Arab Yemen and Persian blood. I would summarize it as Armenic because Armenians have their own look. They have their own nose and head shape that makes them distinct.

Their mixture have nothing to do with their meta-ethnicity. Linguistically and historically the group is a distinct IE branch, as mentioned before.

[Musso]

No, I don't think that.

It seems you don't think very often.

[Musso]

Their mixture have nothing to do with their meta-ethnicity. Linguistically and historically the group is a distinct IE branch, as mentioned before.

You are right. And when it comes to 'mixture' Armenians don't genetically cluster with Persians or Kurds, even if our languages are more similar.

Interesting article: http://www.eva.mpg.de/genetics/pdf/Y-paper.pdf

A previous analysis of mtDNA variation in the
Caucasus found that Indo-European-speaking Armenians
and Turkic-speaking Azerbaijanians were more closely
related genetically to other Caucasus populations (who
speak Caucasian languages) than to other Indo-European
or Turkic groups, respectively. Armenian and Azerbaijanian therefore represent language replacements, possibly
via elite dominance involving primarily male migrants, in
which case genetic relationships of Armenians and Azerbaijanians based on the Y-chromosome should more closely
reflect their linguistic relationships. We therefore analyzed 11 bi-allelic Y-chromosome markers in 389 males
from eight populations, representing all major linguistic
groups in the Caucasus. As with the mtDNA study, based
on the Y-chromosome Armenians and Azerbaijanians are
more closely-related genetically to their geographic
neighbors in the Caucasus than to their linguistic neighbors elsewhere. However, whereas the mtDNA results show
that Caucasian groups are more closely related genetically
to European than to Near Eastern groups, by contrast the
Y-chromosome shows a closer genetic relationship with
the Near East than with Europe.

http://www.eva.mpg.de/genetics/pdf/Y-paper.pdf

Check out the graphs in the end.

[rashka]

I guess you can say they are a West Asian meta-ethnicity. What does West Asian include? That's the other question.

[Musso]

I guess you can say they are a West Asian meta-ethnicity. What does West Asian include? That's the other question.

West Asian is very broad

[Loki]

I guess you can say they are a West Asian meta-ethnicity. What does West Asian include? That's the other question.

I guess West Asian is more of a genetic term, rather than an ethnic one.

[Yalquzaq]

You are right. And when it comes to 'mixture' Armenians don't genetically cluster with Persians or Kurds, even if our languages are more similar.

Interesting article: http://www.eva.mpg.de/genetics/pdf/Y-paper.pdf

http://www.eva.mpg.de/genetics/pdf/Y-paper.pdf

Check out the graphs in the end.

It is only natural for peoples from same geographical regions to be similar to each other, but it neither reflects the actual origin. For instance if we accept Oghuz Turks (I.E ancestors of Azerbaijani Turks) as one of the most recent settlers in Caucasus, it still dates to a millenium ago, which is actually a very long time. Historical, cultural and genetical relations between the peoples of the same region is inevitable. But again, this should not mislead people about the roots and origins of one nation.

Here is an example of Azerbaijani costume, identical to North Caucasus.



If I were to give an example from North-Caucasus, the Turkic Karachay and Balkars has been influenced by Circassians to such extent that even their singing style is identical.