View Poll Results: Afghanistan is best represented from a regional perspective on maps as:

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  • Central Asian

    16 44.44%
  • Middle Eastern

    9 25.00%
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    9 25.00%
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Thread: Afghanistan: a Middle Eastern or Central Asian Country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesuvian Sky View Post
    Some regards more appropriate since cultural overlap is shared with Pakistan:
    Cultural overlaps with Pakistan? I'm afghan myself, and I'm telling you directly the ONLY people we share slight common culture are northwest Pakistanis, afterall we are also genetically not that far. Punjabis, Sindhis are miles away from us, however RECENTLY due to migration to Pakistan by afghan refugees, South asian culture such as Bollywood has become famous for afghans. Plus if we are talking about culture here, we share common cultures with iranians( nowruz, language, religion, ancient traditions) as well as central asians such as Tajiks and Uzbeks. The argument for afghanistan becoming part of South asia is ridiculous. In terms of POLITICS yes, afghanistan is classified as Middle Eastern but in some cases with South asia, mainly because of close ties with Pakistan but that's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    Historically the Hindukush was the borderline between the South and Central Asia. The Middle Eastern influence is weak here, but exist.
    Depends when you say middle eastern. Middle East consists of mostly Arab countries and Iran, sometimes Turkey. In that case afghanistan has had heavy influence from 2 of the 3. Arab influence is definitely present( an afghan member from arthroscope had J1 haplogroup). Afghanistan made the eastern part of the persian empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesuvian Sky View Post
    Yeah I know. And at one time Turco-Mongol types ruled over the entire area:



    Who makes up the majority now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamo View Post
    Cultural overlaps with Pakistan? I'm afghan myself, and I'm telling you directly the ONLY people we share slight common culture are northwest Pakistanis, afterall we are also genetically not that far. Punjabis, Sindhis are miles away from us, however RECENTLY due to migration to Pakistan by afghan refugees, South asian culture such as Bollywood has become famous for afghans. Plus if we are talking about culture here, we share common cultures with iranians( nowruz, language, religion, ancient traditions) as well as central asians such as Tajiks and Uzbeks. The argument for afghanistan becoming part of South asia is ridiculous. In terms of POLITICS yes, afghanistan is classified as Middle Eastern but in some cases with South asia, mainly because of close ties with Pakistan but that's all.
    Its probably not as south Asian as it could be if one considers India the true core of South Asian culture. However, Pakistan is usually lumped in with south Asia though. And some of the closer relatives to some Afgahn people are in Pakistan. Of course Tajiks would be closer to Tajiks of Tajikistan. Which is usually considered C. Asian easily.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zmey Gorynych View Post
    Turan is not a one day/night passion. Time can not change the hearts and minds of tr00 Turan followers because Turan is limitless in time and space. Turan is not merely a racial classification, Turan is a state of mind, it is the path of the righteous and the doom of the wicked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamo View Post
    Who makes up the majority now?
    We all know, but Turkic people were and are still there and even ruled at one time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zmey Gorynych View Post
    Turan is not a one day/night passion. Time can not change the hearts and minds of tr00 Turan followers because Turan is limitless in time and space. Turan is not merely a racial classification, Turan is a state of mind, it is the path of the righteous and the doom of the wicked.

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    Dunno, but it got the worst of both worlds.

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    There's this family from Afghanistan living in my street and they look very Mongoloid.

    Never asked about their ethnicity, but I assume they are Hazara.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesuvian Sky View Post
    Its probably not as south Asian as it could be if one considers India the true core of South Asian culture. However, Pakistan is usually lumped in with south Asia though. And some of the closer relatives to some Afgahn people are in Pakistan. Of course Tajiks would be closer to Tajiks of Tajikistan. Which is usually considered C. Asian easily.
    Bro that's lik saying there's Indians in Britain so Britain is close to India. No that's not the case. Pakistan is mostly punjabis gujjars Sindhis and other indid groups which are not related to afggans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willem View Post
    There's this family from Afghanistan living in my street and they look very Mongoloid.

    Never asked about their ethnicity, but I assume they are Hazara.
    Yeah hazara or uzbeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamo View Post
    Bro that's lik saying there's Indians in Britain so Britain is close to India. No that's not the case. Pakistan is mostly punjabis gujjars Sindhis and other indid groups which are not related to afggans.
    Hardly at all and bad analogy:
    About 98% of languages spoken in Pakistan are of the Indo-Iranian branch (sub-branches: 75% of the Indo-Aryan branch and 20% of the Iranian branch), a branch of the Indo-European family of languages. Most languages of Pakistan are written in the Perso-Arabic script, with significant vocabulary derived from Persian and Turkish, as well as those Arabic words found in Persian. Due to Persian mediation, the pronunciation of Arabic loan-words in the native languages of Pakistan follows the Persian model and is not based directly on the Arabic of Arabia. Punjabi (Shahmukhi), Saraiki, Sindhi, Pashto, Urdu, Balochi, Kashmiri (Koshur) are the general languages spoken within Pakistan. The majority of Pakistanis belong to various Indo-Aryan-speaking groups, while large minorities are from various Iranian and Dardic language groups. In addition, small groups of language isolates such as Burusho and Dravidian Speakers like the Brahui people also live in the country. The major ethnic groups of Pakistan in numerical size include: Punjabis, Pashtuns, Sindhis, Saraikis, Muhajirs, Balochis, Hindkowans, Chitralis and other smaller groups.
    Now Afgahnistan:

    Afghanistan is a multiethnic society. The population of the country is divided into a wide variety of ethnolinguistic groups. The ethnic groups of the country are as follow: Pashtun, Tajik, Hazara, Uzbek, Aimak, Turkmen, Baloch, Pashai, Nuristani, Gujjar, Arab, Brahui, Pamiri and some others.
    Lots of Pash all over the place.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zmey Gorynych View Post
    Turan is not a one day/night passion. Time can not change the hearts and minds of tr00 Turan followers because Turan is limitless in time and space. Turan is not merely a racial classification, Turan is a state of mind, it is the path of the righteous and the doom of the wicked.

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