Bosniaks and Bosnian Serbs

[Twistedmind]

You can thank the Serbs and Croats for that, for suppressing Bosnian ethnic identity. They even have a distinct language for fuck's sake - a Slavic language inbetween Croat and Serbian.

Bosnians were unable to list themselves as Bosnians, and they were simply referred to as "Muslims" and had to accept that.

Loki, most of Bosnians, at least from time when census was recorded were Serbs and Croats. What language? It is same language, at best diferent standard of it. Differences between American and British English are comparable with differences of three, now four languages.
Before calling themselves Muslims they even called themselves Turks.

[Hurrem sultana]

The greatest proof of our identity comes from the census when we had to choose serbian or croatian

then Bosnia had the greatest number of people that were "others",,it was very negative viewed ,some communists even went as far as calling us "hidden enemies" .After that we were allowed to be "Muslimani" with capital M

[Hurrem sultana]

Anyway,bosnian lexikon is the oldest in Balkans ,from the 16th century,,,if there is no bosnian language then how come there is a lexikon of it in times when neither serbs nor croats had one?

There are also other proof,like poems where the language bosnian is mentioned

[Hurrem sultana]

"Mnogo je lijepih rječnika napisano,
Sve kao dragi kamen probranih i omiljenih,
Ali nema napisana na bosanskom jeziku,
Ni sastavljena u prozi ni skićena u pjesmu,
Moje je započeti, a Božije da mi dade da uspijem". (Potur-Šahidija, 1631. godine)


This is the "pre word" of Muhamed Hevai Uskufi who wrote the first bosnian lexikon

[Lena]

They even have a distinct language for fuck's sake - a Slavic language inbetween Croat and Serbian.

Could you elaborate on the above, pls ?

Bosnians were unable to list themselves as Bosnians, and they were simply referred to as "Muslims" and had to accept that.

You're writing about it like it was alright and happily accepted by gov. to list your self as Muslim, Orthodox or Catholic.

[Lena]

Before calling themselves Muslims they even called themselves Turks.

Sad but true.

[Zmey Gorynych]

The bosniak identity is a fabricated one as are a few other across Europe, many countries that have no reason to be ... my 2 cents on the subject

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_language

from the wiki article:

Standard Bosnian is based on the most widespread dialect of Serbo-Croatian, Shtokavian, more specifically on Eastern Herzegovinian, which is also the basis of Standard Croatian, Serbian, and Montenegrin

[Loki]

Before calling themselves Muslims they even called themselves Turks.

Even before the Ottoman era there was a Bosnian church. This Bosnian church was regarded by others as heretical, which is probably why Bosnians converted to Islam easier.

[SILNI]

Since Bosniaks are Muslim Slavs ...

Not all , neither they declare as such.

[SILNI]

Sorry, even I know that is nonsense.

It is truth.
Before there were just turks and muslims in Bosnia. Bosniak is new term.