Christianity must be taken from you, because you will never leave it now.

[1stLightHorse]

If we follow Kant,only proper morality can be achieved through form of atheism.

So leaving Christianity will not produce darwinist society just like that.

I am familiar with this principle....Kant however, during his time was only exposed to the traditional ideas of theism.
I'm not an anti-theist, i'm just saying we need to eliminate the guilt. It's the guilt and the fear that prevents our people from acting on what we already feel and know to be the truth. If we need to eliminate others, so be it. We should do it steadfastly, without guilt and MOST IMPORTANTLY! without any sense of eternal repercussion.

[1stLightHorse]

Yes, when the early Christianizers went to Europe they found societies that were already socially civilized in many instances, heck, an argument can be made that in some cases Christianity probably worsened the local situation.

Of course. I agree, this was not my point...Humanism in my definition is demonstrated by the guilt whites feel for this notion of perpetrating something against others. So when they come into our lands via legal immigration for eg....we prop them up. I see it with my own eyes. Surely my country is not the only one doing this??? They don't just offer assistance in education, health, employment, they offer PRIVELAGE above and beyond what we have access to because of what they refer to as "social gaps". This is a HUGE problem and its becoming worse.

People use the excuse, "oh we're just being nice"...Putting others above yourself is unacceptable.
Look btw, i'm not poor and without money or success. I achieved what i wanted to. I'm an accountant by trade and i make a living that has exceeded even my own expectatons, i'm not persuing this for myself but i'm sick of seeing young whites who feel cheated by their own people in favour of these aliens. I don't want to see hopelessness in the eyes of my my peers and those younger than myself, because they're being thrown aside i favour of lesser beings.

[riverman]

Of course. I agree, this was not my point...Humanism in my definition is demonstrated by the guilt whites feel for this notion of perpetrating something against others. So when they come into our lands via legal immigration for eg....we prop them up. I see it with my own eyes. Surely my country is not the only one doing this??? They don't just offer assistance in education, health, employment, they offer PRIVELAGE above and beyond what we have access to because of what they refer to as "social gaps". This is a HUGE problem and its becoming worse.

People use the excuse, "oh we're just being nice"...Putting others above yourself is unacceptable.
Look btw, i'm not poor and without money or success. I achieved what i wanted to. I'm an accountant by trade and i make a living that has exceeded even my own expectatons, i'm not persuing this for myself but i'm sick of seeing young whites who feel cheated by their own people in favour of these aliens. I don't want to see hopelessness in the eyes of my my peers and those younger than myself, because they're being thrown aside i favour of lesser beings.

I don't really see the connection to Christianity, though, most Christians I've met haven't been particularly humanistic IMO, in fact many just judge you on your denomination etc. it seems, no different from non-Christians

[Qutuzistan]

Of course. I agree, this was not my point...Humanism in my definition is demonstrated by the guilt whites feel for this notion of perpetrating something against others. So when they come into our lands via legal immigration for eg....we prop them up. I see it with my own eyes. Surely my country is not the only one doing this??? They don't just offer assistance in education, health, employment, they offer PRIVELAGE above and beyond what we have access to because of what they refer to as "social gaps". This is a HUGE problem and its becoming worse.

People use the excuse, "oh we're just being nice"...Putting others above yourself is unacceptable.
Look btw, i'm not poor and without money or success. I achieved what i wanted to. I'm an accountant by trade and i make a living that has exceeded even my own expectatons, i'm not persuing this for myself but i'm sick of seeing young whites who feel cheated by their own people in favour of these aliens. I don't want to see hopelessness in the eyes of my my peers and those younger than myself, because they're being thrown aside i favour of lesser beings.

So basically, having an egalitarian morality goes against your peoples interests. Do you even feel any sense of justice when you talk about eliminating others? As far as I remember assistance is supposed to help immigrants integrate and it's offered to white immigrants like yourself as well. Are you mad that white Australians have to share some of their established power by including members of other races into their establishment? Besides your an alien yourself, your entire country is based on colonization and subjugation of aborigines, whose right to preserve their culture and numbers was utterly neglected. If you had been talking about Europe, that would be an entirely different thing, in that case your grievances would be legitimate and no one would have the right to challenge your privilege. In that case your alienable rights are protected by right of homeland.

[SkyBurn]

Of course. I agree, this was not my point...Humanism in my definition is demonstrated by the guilt whites feel for this notion of perpetrating something against others.

...I don't want to see hopelessness in the eyes of my my peers and those younger than myself, because they're being thrown aside i favour of lesser beings.

Humanism is the idea that we should all be given an equal chance, and Utilitarianism means that we all give a little happiness in exchange for greater happiness. Together, these principles work towards a secular world where people can survive at a bare minimum level, and meritocracy dictates standard of living. Humanism is not white guilt; it is the empathy of the powerful.

And how can you possibly compare the "hopelessness in the eyes of your peers" to the hopelessness of immigrants who never had the luxuries of Westernism lavished upon them like the former. Get a reality check; these immigrants are not "lesser beings", they are "human beings". Australia, like America, was built on the backs of immigrants.

Of course we should not flood Australia with immigrants who cannot assimilate and integrate into Aussie society. But I think that a hopeful and hardworking man from the third world embodies the Australian spirit more than spoilt Anglo kids who get their quality of life handed to them on a silver platter.

ALSO: inb4 called a cultural marxist

[Loki]

If we need to eliminate others, so be it. We should do it steadfastly, without guilt and MOST IMPORTANTLY! without any sense of eternal repercussion.

Please explain "eliminating others". What do you mean by that? Some kind of "final solution"?

[1stLightHorse]

So basically, having an egalitarian morality goes against your peoples interests. Do you even feel any sense of justice when you talk about eliminating others? As far as I remember assistance is supposed to help immigrants integrate and it's offered to white immigrants like yourself as well. Are you mad that white Australians have to share some of their established power by including members of other races into their establishment? Besides your an alien yourself, your entire country is based on colonization and subjugation of aborigines, whose right to preserve their culture and numbers was utterly neglected. If you had been talking about Europe, that would be an entirely different thing, in that case your grievances would be legitimate and no one would have the right to challenge your privilege. In that case your alienable rights are protected by right of homeland.

Subjugation of aboriginals, haha. Don't bother commenting again, rather spend your time on bacha bazi like your ancestors.

[1stLightHorse]

Please explain "eliminating others". What do you mean by that? Some kind of "final solution"?

Well look...like the non-european above mentioned the aboriginals. To use them as an example, i firmly believe it would have been better for all parties, to kill every last aboriginal on this continent. This is just one example of many... When you feel this desire to nurture lesser peoples, as it seems you do...Do you not ask yourself why? are you really being honest with yourself that it isn't because you fear the unknown? That when you leave this life, none of us really know what we will encounter so it's better to be 'safe than sorry' ??? This in essence, is my point. Are you really being brutally honest with yourself? I have compassion for my own, i do. I have compassion for you because i see you as one of my own and should you be my neighbour i would gladly help you, but i refuse to help non-europeans. It's not because of any sense of morality or potential punishment, it's because i love to see my people succeed because their potential is the greatest on this earth and i have no doubt about that.

Btw you sound pro-multiculturalism. Are you?

[1stLightHorse]

Humanism is the idea that we should all be given an equal chance, and Utilitarianism means that we all give a little happiness in exchange for greater happiness. Together, these principles work towards a secular world where people can survive at a bare minimum level, and meritocracy dictates standard of living. Humanism is not white guilt; it is the empathy of the powerful.

And how can you possibly compare the "hopelessness in the eyes of your peers" to the hopelessness of immigrants who never had the luxuries of Westernism lavished upon them like the former. Get a reality check; these immigrants are not "lesser beings", they are "human beings". Australia, like America, was built on the backs of immigrants.

Of course we should not flood Australia with immigrants who cannot assimilate and integrate into Aussie society. But I think that a hopeful and hardworking man from the third world embodies the Australian spirit more than spoilt Anglo kids who get their quality of life handed to them on a silver platter.

ALSO: inb4 called a cultural marxist

Heard it all before. Don't care for it whatsoever. Considering that you aren't even ethnically european your input should not be cared for either.

[Flintlocke]

Since eventually the sons and daughters of Europe need to leave behind this dogmatic humanism if they are to survive. There is no question about this. I know some, if not the majority of you are Christian. If not in practice or belief, then in conscience.

Ask yourselves now:

Why is it in the best interest of Europeans to help preserve the identity of other peoples, not only in their own lands but in your own lands.

Why do we consider it wrong to have dominated and destroyed the indigenous peoples of lands that we have conquered to be used for our own prosperity.

Where is the dilemma in hunting and annihilating people upon whose territory we can gain advantages, or whose resources we covet.

Why have you let them succeed in tricking your conscience? Why have the rabble convinced you that your dominance is wrong or unjust? Is it because of "Do unto others"??
These are tough questions that our societies need to start asking ourselves and i intend to do exactly that.

Where is the doctrine of Strength? Islam is stronger than christianity yes, but it's no different. I've been to mosques, i've studied the qur'an and hadith. But, jumping from branch to branch is not progress. We must jump off the tree altogether and realise that we have legs to run. Everything of this semitic nature needs to be weeded out. Even the vedic doctrines have been tainted and defiled by humanism because of their race mixing. Inevitably, the weaker of the two races that mix, will try to weaken the stronger in order to equalise and secure their existence, of course they can't do this physically so they do it ideologically...

Christianity facilitated our greatness but eventually managed to destroy us. The Christian centuries were merely pagan with a christian flavor. The entire society was stratified on inequality and strength. Now the christian morality of equality and love has saturated everything but the ideology has outgrown the mythology so it's associated with primarily leftist feel-good movements, and the irony is that the church is supposed to represent conservatism. Like the mythology died, the ethics must die too, otherwise we'll keep going on this decadent trajectory. But all this has come up as a side effect from the huge material wealth we have created, the best thing that could happen would be a massive economic meltdown and those strong will survive and create the next ruling class.