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    Throughout history, you have been regarded as 'aliens' in the Balkan by your neighbours, because of your Islamic religion. I guess therefore you felt closer to Turks and other Muslims.

    And now, since many European countries (especially in Northern Europe) have helped and offered you refuge - do you feel more 'European' now, and accepted by fellow Europeans?
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    Because when Bosnian Genocide was happenning in front of Europe, No one helped them. So i do not think they will forget that and get closer to Other Europeans.

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    Well, We have always been European, Slavs, South-europeans. Because of a empire invading into the Balkans, and converting us to Islam, does not make us any-lesser European. Sure, Islam has been started in a foreign land from us, But we are still who we are. Brits, Russians,etc., are converting to Islam and their still European. No difference whatsoever

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    Quote Originally Posted by adsız View Post
    Because when Bosnian Genocide was happenning in front of Europe, No one helped them. So i do not think they will forget that and get closer to Other Europeans.
    They did eventually, but far too late. Sadly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Throughout history, you have been regarded as 'aliens' in the Balkan by your neighbours, because of your Islamic religion. I guess therefore you felt closer to Turks and other Muslims.

    And now, since many European countries (especially in Northern Europe) have helped and offered you refuge - do you feel more 'European' now, and accepted by fellow Europeans?

    Well, I always felt European...regardless of what the neighbours felt or feel about me. I was born in Europe, my ancestors are European...I do have a religion which originated in the same part of the world as Christianity, which has been present in Europe since the 8th century...and which has in the Balkans its own interpretation, cultural expression and architecture. A "soft kind of Islam" as the writer Miljenko Jergovic once wrote...

    I do feel a connection to the turkish culture. The religion is of course the same, but also the cousine, customs, music and almost five hundred years of common history. Even in the language you can find turkish words ( but most of this applies to all Balkan countries, 500 years is a long time of influence).

    Regarding other Muslims...just religion alone is not enough for me to feel close to anyone. I feel closer to a Pole or a Slovenian than to...a Pakistani or Somalian of course. Even turks from inner Anatolia seem strange to me compared to the inhabitants of Istanbul, for example.

    Now...I am in northern Europe, Norway...a country that has given me a refuge, an education, employment...everything any other Norwegian citizen has, and I know Norway has given me more than Bosnia ever would have been able to. Bosniaks in Norway are very well integrated, I have no experience with Norwegians considering us anything else but Europeans, the issue of immigration has largely focused on Pakistani, Somalian and Arab immigrants and not Bosniaks. I consider Norway as my home country now, because it is here where my home is. I have bulit a life here.

    And I consider this area of the world to be much safer and friendlier for my (future) children to grow up in, rather than the Balkans...I do not want them to go trough the shit that I did...
    I`ve kept the Bosniak traditions and embraced the Norwegian ones...i like bosnian food burek, and norwegian rice pudding
    I think it`s a good thing, to get to know two cultures from different places on the continent. It`s enriching.

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    i think that it is not the religion that shows that u are an European or not.After all none of the 3 major religious have "started" in Europe.

    The religios is smth personal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlSh View Post
    i think that it is not the religion that shows that u are an European or not.After all none of the 3 major religious have "started" in Europe.

    The religios is smth personal.
    Yes but Christian tradition incorporated much more stuff from European soil and evolved mostly in Europe. That's why Islam even tough it has similar origin because of its evolution in Arabia feels alien in Europe.

    That's how I explain it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cokolino_ View Post
    Well, I always felt European...regardless of what the neighbours felt or feel about me. I was born in Europe, my ancestors are European...I do have a religion which originated in the same part of the world as Christianity, which has been present in Europe since the 8th century...and which has in the Balkans its own interpretation, cultural expression and architecture. A "soft kind of Islam" as the writer Miljenko Jergovic once wrote...

    I do feel a connection to the turkish culture. The religion is of course the same, but also the cousine, customs, music and almost five hundred years of common history. Even in the language you can find turkish words ( but most of this applies to all Balkan countries, 500 years is a long time of influence).

    Regarding other Muslims...just religion alone is not enough for me to feel close to anyone. I feel closer to a Pole or a Slovenian than to...a Pakistani or Somalian of course. Even turks from inner Anatolia seem strange to me compared to the inhabitants of Istanbul, for example.

    Now...I am in northern Europe, Norway...a country that has given me a refuge, an education, employment...everything any other Norwegian citizen has, and I know Norway has given me more than Bosnia ever would have been able to. Bosniaks in Norway are very well integrated, I have no experience with Norwegians considering us anything else but Europeans, the issue of immigration has largely focused on Pakistani, Somalian and Arab immigrants and not Bosniaks. I consider Norway as my home country now, because it is here where my home is. I have bulit a life here.

    And I consider this area of the world to be much safer and friendlier for my (future) children to grow up in, rather than the Balkans...I do not want them to go trough the shit that I did...
    I`ve kept the Bosniak traditions and embraced the Norwegian ones...i like bosnian food burek, and norwegian rice pudding
    I think it`s a good thing, to get to know two cultures from different places on the continent. It`s enriching.
    Great answer, thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jusuf View Post
    Brits, Russians,etc., are converting to Islam and their still European. No difference whatsoever
    Maybe in your wishfull thinking ... those few are traitors and renegades, European and Mohameddan is only an oxymoron
    "In their old age every former whore tries to lecture everyone on morality. Especially on overseas tours." "Either take off your cross or put on your knickers."(Dmitry Rogozin )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Throughout history, you have been regarded as 'aliens' in the Balkan by your neighbours, because of your Islamic religion. I guess therefore you felt closer to Turks and other Muslims.

    And now, since many European countries (especially in Northern Europe) have helped and offered you refuge - do you feel more 'European' now, and accepted by fellow Europeans?
    We had a Kingdom during Midle age, we were part of Ottoman Empire, Austrian Empire, we've experienced fascism, communism, now capitalism. We feel as European as any other country since all European troubles an Ideologies affected us. If we feel more European, it's because of the European Union process, and it applies to all the continent.

    About feeling closer to muslims, I'm closer to Belgians and Eastern Europeans, North Africans hit on my nerves, I have not much common with them.
    Cheers to Bosnia


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